Give me a break man you fools are way out of line with this. Ridiculous stuff. This is how you turn your backs now? Be glazing some random guy on the world cup and calling this guy here a dummy give me a break. This is why most people can't stand this team and it's fans.
I don’t see the issue here. Camavinga is a card magnet and he also does a silly action almost every game near his own box that leads to a big chance for the opponent. Usually because he overdribbles or wants seven touches when he has time for two or three. His issues are entirely down to both injuries and decision-making, otherwise he would lock down a midfield role in this team.
End of the day he's still a very good player at a very young age playing high pressure top of the game situation football. Schweinsteiger was not nearly the player he eventually became at 23 years old yet. This is still the same club that felt like Rafa van der Vaart was the solution.
Always talking about intelligence. Would love to see both of them alongside yourself testing all that. Anyways, the guy has disappointed. I would rather hope that Mourinho can spark a difference in him that write him completely off as a failure at 23.
If Camavinga isn’t on the market currently he will never be. I think we’ll be happy to keep him as a DM back up who can cover LB and downgrade his salary to reflect his drastically lowered future ceiling. He was rewarded well after the 2021/22 season when he still looked like e future gem.
Oofff. Somebody got hurt. I was actually talking about on field iq. Well, for Vini, we could actually extend it off-field as well. Unless you want to argue otherwise.
Let's not forget we constantly get worried whenever he plays these days because he constantly makes dumb mistakes.
I'm "hurt" because I want to see just how intelligent you are compared to those intelligences you question? Okay Ah, because you know Vinicius off-field? Please go into detail, what has Vinicius done "off-field" to show a lack of intelligence? I will await your very intelligent answer. If you said Camavinga had a lack of focus and awareness at times I would agree. If you said Vinicius had a lack of focus and attitude issues I would agree.
What do you suggest? A calculus exam? Camavinga has made some of the costlier mistakes. Bad passing and dribbling. Giving away fouls in dangerous areas. Things he hasn't improved and might have even regressed. Ah Vini. Like approving the left handed MJ tat?
None of that has anything to do with intelligence or "field IQ". Everyone makes dumb decisions or has brain farts; that doesn't equate to being unintelligent. Again, please give me a detailed list of the things Vinicius has done that makes you question his "off-field" intelligence? Getting a tattoo is a laughable example. Please give us substantial responses.
Hey man, you suggested testing our intelligence. What do you suggest to accomplish this? "Everybody makes mistakes" - more mistakes than the other midfielders apparently. It's actually a sign of his impulsiveness and inability to see the bigger picture. I could also easily pick on his previous choice of a mate. I know you love Vini so much cause you relate with him
Figure out if you're always questioning players IQs because recognize this like a "seeing yourself in the mirror" experience or... maybe you're smarter than us all??? Yes if you only watch Madrid matches and only fixate on Madrid midfielders mistakes. If you actually watch other teams you will see midfielders.. heck players make mistakes, lose focus, etc. What does this supposed impulsiveness have to do with his intelligence? Again, provide multiple instances that support your declaration that Vinicius has done off-field things that show he is unintelligent. You can't even back up your terrible remarks. Just snark comments without any substance and your talking about the intelligence of others you have never had a conversation with in your life.
Ah yes, challenge me on something you alluded to yet have no idea how to execute. Well done. I watch the team pretty well. That's why I know among our regular midfielders, Camavinga makes the most catastrophic mistakes and loss of focus. Do you disagree? If so then who? There is actually moderate correlation between impulsiveness and lower iq. I just backed up my allegation of Vini being a lower iq off field. You're just in the camp of "there is no amount of evidence that would change my mind" camp.
I see no reason to sell, I think he's a good squad player, he's not improved as much as I'd like but the broader context of trying to do so in the constant chaotic environment we have had contributed to that. He's played out of position, others are played out of position, it's been a circus.
Couldn't process the difference from someone speaking literally and figuratively; in case you're still confused no one was actually expecting you to take a test. It's okay, don't be scared; relax. Couldn't address his own statement "that other players don't make mistakes" and tried to move the goal posts to make it specifically only our own...... without realizing every single one of our midfielders made mistakes heck Thiago almost assisted a goal right in front of his own net. Couldn't provide examples of Vini being low IQ so created a false correlation with Vinicius getting a tattoo. Continually misses the fact plural means you need multiple and not one example. In short? I think we should question your "off field" IQ as well brother.
Translation:"I have to backout of my own challenge because i dug myself in a hole" - I'll just make up an excuse that it's not a literal statement, that'll show em". I did address Camavinga stating i watch the midfielders play. I didn't argue that he didn't make any mistakes, I said he made the most critical mistakes. You didn't disagree, you just deflected. I also addressed Vini's low iq based on his latest mate choice aside from that cringey tat, In which you had no rebutt. Amnesia much? Dude, please, you're not THAT guy.
As I said low IQ. The challenge part is hilarious as if the mods have Camavinga and Vinicius numbers and we can give them a ring to set up your IQ test. Only one proven to not have the intelligence here sadly is you and you will prove it as you always do... continue to dig deeper and not no when to just stop.
Sure. And I'de bet house money on my iq test being higher than theirs. Cause unlike you, I actually know my average iq score through several iq tests spread througout the years. And I don't like their odds. I have an idea. I'll make a poll in another forum if they think Vini has: A. Higher than average iq B. Average iq C. Lower than average iq What do you think Youngstars87?
Oh come on Nate, you don't think it's entertaining this guy come full circle? I almost have him declaring his IQ score lol
You know me enough to know the extended back and forths dont do much for me, no matter who is involved.
Don't see why we should get rid of Cama, does he make mistakes yes , so has every player we have, a special talent and he's only 23, still has time to grow
I agree with this but if there is a midfielder we could get that better fits the squad and we need to raise some money, he is a liked candidate. Precisely because of the things you mentioned.
We need to get rid of a midfielder to make room for a DLP. So it's either him or another midfielder. Other than Jude, he is the worst performer recently.