Oohh! Eduardoooh! Eduardoooh! Florentino Gazes As Emir's Cries Go Unrequited - Bienvenu Camavinga!

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  1. LukaGoat

    LukaGoat Member

    Real Madrid
    Portugal
    Apr 15, 2026
    But, but ,but this is 'absolutely hysterical, a madman's words or those of a child.' It's easy to argue that way, without any argument and nothing to back my opinion ;)
     
  2. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    What do you have to give your opinion any kind of credibility other than playing "semi pro" like this is supposed to be impressive?

    There's so many worse players to play for this club and you get riled up about Camavinga. Ceballos is on the roster and is considerably worse. Just as an example.

    The club has actively tried to get him off the roster and hasn't been able to do so for years.

    I don't often do this but this seems like a thing about Camavinga other than his football that bothers you.
     
  3. LukaGoat

    LukaGoat Member

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    Apr 15, 2026
    Its not impressive for sure, but is way more impressive than camping in a forum 24/7 for example.

    Even comparing Camavinga to Ceballos shows your lack of any football knowledge. Ceballos from January 2025 until his injury was having an impact in this team that Camavinga could only dream of. He can control the tempo of a game and is offering himself for a pass every time, has very good technique and can take free kicks and corners good. His athleticism and injuries are the problem
     
  4. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    The club was willing to PAY money to a club to have them take Ceballos off their hands and couldn't find takers.

    Maybe they needed the necessary semi pro experience you bring to the table to recognize his value.
     
  5. LukaGoat

    LukaGoat Member

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    Apr 15, 2026
    They recognized his value when they gave him the starting spot in January 2025, something Camavinga never got.

    But they probably need your 'never touched a ball with my feet' experience, because now the club only have the opinions of Ancelotti, Alonso and Arbeloa who were not rating Camavinga. Probably they can call Deschamps also, who chose Fenerbahce 35 years old midfielder, 31 years old AC Milan player, reserve midfielder/right-back from PSG and MANU KONE :D ahead of 'Cama'
     
  6. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    You don't know shit about me and we'll keep it that way.

    I don't feel the need to use my experience or achievements in the sport to back up my opinion here. I just call out yours because I can tell that it's got motives that are not related to football.
     
  7. LukaGoat

    LukaGoat Member

    Real Madrid
    Portugal
    Apr 15, 2026
    In like 10 comments you did not tell a single purely football argument to back your opinion about the level of Camavinga or Ceballos. That is speaking for your 'experience and achievments in the sport' :D
     
  8. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Ceballos is a player that looks good on tv. He'll make less mistakes but never do anything he looks bad doing. He's a player with a safe floor, but he never leaves that. There's clips of him at Arsenal where they were struggling to give him instructions.

    When Real Madrid signed him, they believed in his potential off the basis of that, but he's so averse to doing anything than the safest "get it away from me" option, that his career totals equal to a SEASON of players he competes with.

    Camavinga was a player signed under the same idea, but as much as it is his fault, the club never really had a clue what to do with him, had him play all over the field to get some use out of him, but his engine and ability to move the ball forward is that of a top prospect. That's why coaches were comfortable in using him as a defender in a pinch, he moves fast and has arguably better control in tight spaces than wide areas of the field where he gets caught reading options with his eyes. Opponents read a player that looks where he passes.

    I think there was never a plan for him other as a spot replacement for others, and that slowed down his progress.

    He's also still very young.
     
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  9. LukaGoat

    LukaGoat Member

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    Portugal
    Apr 15, 2026
    The problem with Ce
    Ceballos was signed in the worst possible time for a midfielder to be signed by Real Madrid since he had literally 0% chance to gain starting spot against the best CM in the history of the game and the second best CM in the world at the time.

    Anyway, I am not going to talk about Ceballos a lot. He is not some incredible palyer, BUT he is miles ahead of Camavinga. He is braver to receive the ball in though situations, has better technique and did not commit unnecessary fouls. Thiago Pitarch is basically Ceballos with less experience and he is rated higher than Camavinga already after 2 months in the first team.
     
  10. 4x4s

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    That's your opinion. I know for a fact that Bayern would sign Camavinga tomorrow morning if they could.

    I do think he could potentially be on the market, mostly because unlike say, Ceballos, there's actual interest for him.
     
  11. LukaGoat

    LukaGoat Member

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    Apr 15, 2026
    Okay, at this point I have no other option than leaving the discussion.
     
  12. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Right, because this is at the end of the day about opinion, and I consider all this "the worst eeeever" stuff to be infantile and baseless.
     
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  13. LukaGoat

    LukaGoat Member

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    Apr 15, 2026
    It would be infantile if I used it for 10 players. In my opinion, based on watching every Real Madrid in the last 25/26 years, I considered it correct that Camavinga is the worst player to play for the first team for 5+ years.

    Lets hope that as you said Bayern are going crazy to sign Manu Kone and Thiago Pitarch sub
     
  14. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Mariano, Jesus Vallejo and Endrick all raise a glass please.
     
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  15. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    I would take him, he can play in a variety of positions and in a tournament like that you need a player you can use to plug holes.
     
  16. Nathanial Essex

    Nathanial Essex Member+

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    England
    Mar 19, 2017
    Yet he was so instrumental in our Champions League win. Hazard played for us 3 years ago and the fact you rate him over Camavinga shows you don't know football or are a troll (or both).

    Camavinga hasn't developed and he's had a poor season facts. But enough with the hyperbole.
     
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  17. temesgen

    temesgen Member+

    Jun 27, 2004
    Another thing about Camavinga, why would we sell a player we didn't pay much for to spend more on a replacement who might be a lot worse. I think the jury is out on Camavinga, I think he's incredibly talented, doesn't complain, does what he's asked and very young. I'd persist with the player.
     
  18. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

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    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Camavinga is nowhere near the worst player in recent history

    come on man.
     
  19. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    Hazard set the bar so high .. erm I meant so low...
     
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  20. LukaGoat

    LukaGoat Member

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    Apr 15, 2026
    First you have to learn to count to five and then you start giving opinions. Hazard stayed for 4 years in the club.

    If we forget that you cant count to 5, Hazard is truly the worst transfer ever made in the history of football, but he is 10 times the footballer Camavinga is and will be. You cant compare the qualities of 2 times premier league POTY winner with Camavinga who did not won man of the match award in 5 years in Madrid and as I said before he cant defend, cant attack and cant even think.
     
  21. Digital

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    Dec 10, 2012
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    Being so "deep" in midfield, with all those guys who are obviously better than Cama i can see why they are struggling to stay in the EPL......
     
  22. .halamadrid2.

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  23. Seoul Villan

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    Feb 16, 2011
    I wish he’d some effort in studying how to be a better footballer.
     
  24. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I wish you would realize how funny it is that you couldn't write that sentence down correctly.

    Maybe you could do with a couple summer classes yourself. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  25. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    Its a good move to pursue a career change since the football thing might not work out.
     

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