I'm guessing since it's summer and a Saturday, it somewhat explains the zero posts on the USA/Brazil gold medal game. On the field, this probably should have been a PK. I can see why Bebek didn't believe this met the Clear & Obvious threshold: In addition to the offside goal by the USA where the offside player advances and participates in the goal being validated, there was this penalty for Brazil that was ignored by the referee and VAR. #Paris2024 @iocmedia https://t.co/pMpptE85Du— ed (@edwtimao) August 10, 2024 We would have had more clips than this, but every time there was a disallowed goal or anything interesting going on, the world camera feed would focus on Megan Rapinoe instead.
Slight contact on her trailing foot, and she threw herself to the ground. Not one player on the field expected that to be called.
I just don't see that as a PK much less a VAR intervention. That last replay at :59 seems clear to me. Maybe it's my red white and blinders.
I think a third angle would be helpful. Because I agree that second angle makes it look like the Brazilian just sort of let the ball alone and helped cause the coming together more than anything. The first angle looks more like a penalty. Piecing together exactly where the ball was when contact was made and whether it happened during what could be seen as a legitimate step over or not seems important. Because it feels like the difference between a careless trip and two players making contact with possession of the ball lost. As it stands, I agree that at minimum the second angle at least supports a non-intervention. I am not sure it supports an overturn if a penalty had been awarded, though.
I wish people would understand the Laws before making uninformed comments on Twitter. That was a GREAT example of patience on holding the offside decision. Smith doesn’t impact the play because the Brazilian defenders are running back regardless of who plays the ball. I’m using this play in contrast to the Rashford play from the Manchester derby to show the difference between active involvement and not active involvement.
The answer is that VAR is a freakin' joke. They have a preternatural knack for stopping play to review picky little infractions that neither the ref nor anyone else has noticed (see last women's Olympics plus any other major competition) and then completely ignoring plays like this that cry out to be reviewed.
As I hope you understand by now, they didn’t ignore the play…they determined that it wasn’t worthy of intervention.
As I recall, there was a situation early in the game in which the flag went up on a marginal offside call on Smith. She may very well have been in an offside position, but shouldn't the flag have stayed down at that moment so VAR and the "yes, we're absolutely sure this was the microsecond the ball was played" offside graphic could be checked? I didn't see many problems in general, though, and setting a stern tone early may have prevented some gamesmanship on both sides later.
What's up with the Keepers, with a 1 goal lead late in the match, flopping to the pitch and staying down on a routine save?
What's up is that the six second count technically doesn't start until they are on their feet and able to play the ball. They double the amount of time with the ball in their hands that way.
Where did you come up with that? By that logic, a goalie could just lie on the ground with the ball for half an hour to hold onto a lead. Technically, the count starts as soon as she has possession. Practically, of course, it’s another matter entirely
Y'know it's been 25 yrs since I've been on the pitch and as I watch matches now I try to keep up but must admit I haven't a clue. I really appreciate the input from the "knowledgeable" people here and somewhat enjoy fans posting that you're clueless. I salute all you people in the trenches.
That's kinda the problem now.....since SAOR is more accurate than humans, the default is now to let play go on and leave the call up to SAOR. And unfortunately that leads to lots of goal celebrations, followed by three minute waits while lines are drawn, followed by the goal being ruled out because somebody was offside by a toenail.
It's very annoying.....especially because it's being done in all situations, NOT just when the keepers team is trying to waste time. You see it just as much in the first half hour of matches as you do in second half stoppage time.
How do you manage it when a keeper spends half their time on the ground? I let the player know they are clear to get up, loudly, encouraging them to get to their feet quickly to mitigate the time down. Nobody on the field expects the time on the ground to count against 6 seconds, including opponents. I admit that in my previous post, "technically" was the wrong term. I'm sure it was actually just instruction I got many years ago before I was fully a student of the Laws and conflated an expected practice and the actual Law.
Except when they aren't making a real save towards the ground. I don't think any of us are counting off six seconds from when they first catch the ball, but we also aren't letting them sniff the grass for 30 seconds while they triumph over that amazing no-save. Stern warning that either you'll be adding time, or if in a league that doesn't add time, you'll be giving the ball to the other team with an indirect kick with a possible yellow. Usually the warning gets their rear in gear
This is not true. With VAR (whether or not there is SAOR), ARs delay their flag when there is a goal scoring opportunity. The AR is still absolutely responsible for making their best call on every play. The delay means the AR can be overruled if the ball goes in the net and the AR flags, as play was not stopped. But the AR is always responsible for making the initial calls—and are evaluated (among other things) on the accuracy of those flags.
I think what that person (and most of us) are talking about is when the goalkeeper easily collects the ball while standing, usually under no pressure, and then theatrically dives to the ground on his knees for no reason whatsoever, then lies down there for 5 seconds looking around, then takes 5 seconds to stand back up, then takes another 10 seconds to look around while standing and finally distribute the ball. But this topic gets discussed and complained about to death and nothing will ever change, so it doesn’t really matter. And also, 6 seconds is nowhere near enough time to assume a goalkeeper can collect the ball and distribute it to a decently positioned teammate. It really should be changed to a 15-20 second rule and then actually be able to enforce it
It’s hard to enforce because the punishment is so significant compared to the violation. But I’d love to see it enforced. Not only is six seconds more than enough time to get up and distribute the ball, but it would make the game faster paced and more exciting than watching the keeper walk around the box for 20 seconds every time they get the ball.