Way more than that. This was a great call, because of flash lag and all the particular movements. But fundamentally it wasn't a close call. The defender's entire body kept the attacker who headed the ball on.
You must have seen a replay that wasn't available on the world feed, then, or you're thinking the ball was played at a time other than I did or than Baka_Shinpan did.
Live, I thought it was off, but I saw the same replay on Peacock and was really impressed with the AR getting it right.
That flash lag is killer. A coach was adamant that I had blown 2 calls by more than a yard to stop a break away. He was in my head big time until I was able to see the video later that week and discovered I was right. I only saw it once and late, but it looked like one of those crossing situations that create a lot of flash lag.
Reddit reaction, FWIW, is near unanimous that Germany was offside. If someone finds a replay that shows otherwise, I would very much like to see it for learning purposes. Maybe without the attitude. I'm as far from a US homer as you can get -- I still need to film myself throwing my laptop out the window because I said I'd do so if the USA got a call in the 2019 World Cup -- and my reporting on the "equal pay" issue made me a lot of powerful enemies. I saw what I saw, and others saw it as well. At the very, very, very least, the broadcasters (mostly on the world feed) should've seen it as a possibility and shown us a replay, though it may have been a moot point to anyone other than those building statues of Alyssa Naeher. (They should be building one of Girma. The USA may not produce consistent attackers and midfielders as it used to, but the center back position is still in very good feet.)
Peacock doesn't allow for screen shots, but the defender's heel was on the top of the goal area and the attackers were about a foot above.
I watched this game live and hoped to see Martinez use the spray (discussing 1st clip) when he was surrounded by both teams waiting for the VAR to decide whether to send it down. I would've loved to see him spray a big circle around himself and then only allow the captains inside to approach him. Yes I understand that's outside of protocol. However, it's a tool that everybody would've understood the purpose of and it would've saved a lot of heartache for Martinez in the moment.
fwiw, no one was in an offside position until the ball was over the heads of the two defenders who tried in vain to close down the pass.
You’ve been completely and utterly wrong from the get-go. And insisting that I must be wrong. What is there to discuss?
That looks like it's a hair before the ball is played, but from that angle, it does look possible that the leg (which wasn't clearly visible in the angle I saw) lagged back.
Let's just say you're not selling the call very well. But we've talked about that before. I'll let it lie there.
Is this the play people are talking about? This is the moment the ball is kicked. Not even close to offside.
I've been on this site daily for 24 years, and this is one of the all-time best trio of consecutive posts I've ever seen.
Oh, they have the video but they weren't picking a good kick point during the game. If the coach follows through with the league, he will get the reply that all offside decisions were correct.
Looks like the ball is *about* to be kicked. But I’d be interested in seeing that angle on video. Where’d you find it?
Fine you want another one? Here’s one after the ball has been kicked that still shows she’s onside Got the replay from a newfangled contraption called a television
With the full understanding that I'm taking this quite a bit off topic, I do want to add a situation I had personally that shows how real flash-lag is and to help add some evidence/context that this play was definitely onside. Two years ago, I was AR2 for a juco men's game. Had one of the classic plays where the defenders were rushing up for an offside trap, the attacker was full speed toward goal, and the ball was played. I was 100% convinced the attacker was onside, but then the attacker had the ball 10 yards beyond the defenders. I ALMOST put my flag up, thinking "there's just no way he could have been onside". But I trusted my instinct and kept the flag down. I later reviewed a video showing the attacker was a full step onside. It honestly wasn't that tight. When I watched the replay, what surprised me was that the defenders did not appeal for offside. No hand in the air, no coming over to argue. The coaching staff also didn't argue (they were on the bench in the other half of the field, but I figured they would be yelling). No one complained. Had I gone against my instinct, I would have wiped out a perfectly good (and very aesthetically-pleasing) goal.