Olympia 2020: Gold Medal or Bust

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Ger90, Jun 30, 2021.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Olympia-Kader:
    Tor: Florian Müller (Stuttgart), Luca Plogmann (Bremen), Svend Brodersen (St. Pauli, Vertrag läuft zum 30. Juni aus, einer der beiden letztgenannten als Nachrücker)

    Abwehr: Benjamin Henrichs (Leipzig), Josha Vagnoman (HSV), Amos Pieper (Bielefeld), Keven Schlotterbeck (Freiburg), Felix Uduokhai (Augsburg), Jordan Torunarigha (Hertha), David Raum (Hoffenheim)

    Mittelfeld: Maximilian Arnold (Wolfsburg), Arne Maier (Hertha), Anton Stach (Fürth), Niklas Dorsch (Gent), Marco Richter (Augsburg), Ismail Jakobs (Köln)

    Angriff: Max Kruse, Cedric Teuchert (beide Union Berlin)

    only 2 Overage=Kruse and Arnold only. Also indications that Plogmann will get called up next cycle. I don't rate Brodesen either. Also weird so Jakobs, Richter, Kruse, Teuchert=only attackers and Jakobs more LWB/LB......
     
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  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Group D
    Germany
    Ivory Coast
    Brazil
    Saudi Arabia
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    this is NOWHERE near best squad too.


    Criticism and praise from Chatzialexiou - turning point at Burkardt - Teuchert too Fight for Dorsch and Uduokhai: This is what Germany's Olympic squad could look like Bundesliga

    Clubs, players and associations - there is still a tough battle for the German Olympic squad. DFB sports director Joti Chatzialexiou criticizes, praises exceptional cases, confirms further cancellations and a backward move, has a duo particularly in its sights and is still looking for two keepers to complete the complicated puzzle. I still have to knock on a few doors to have a sleepy Olympic squad together: U-21 trainer Stefan Kuntz.

    Yesterday, Tuesday, the DFB only had to submit a list of 54 Olympic candidates to the DOSB, but officially no name has yet been published. The DFB was allowed to change and expand an original 50 list due to cancellations, failures and new options. From this pool, Joti Chatzialexiou, sporting director of national teams at the DFB, and Olympic trainer Stefan Kuntz have 18 professionals, including at least two goalkeepers, as the official line-up for the Olympic football tournament in Japan (22. July to August 7th).

    The DFB and DOSB do not want to publicly present the squad until Monday. Until the team is finally in place, the DFB officials continue to have a tough struggle in the many talks with clubs and players due to the lack of a deadline.

    "For many athletes from other sports, the Olympics are an absolute highlight, some of which they have been working towards throughout their careers. From our point of view, soccer competitions are also a special tournament, a unique experience and a great opportunity for everyone," says Chatzialexiou in the Conversation with the kicker. Apparently, not all actors involved share this point of view. "It's a shame that some players and clubs in Germany are not so highly valued, although we celebrated a great success with the silver medal in Brazil in 2016, which many were proud of in the end," said Chatzialexiou.

    Union Berlin's readiness: "That deserves respect" Like Kuntz on Tuesday in his role as ARD expert, the 45-year-old also refers to a counterexample: "For example, there are six players in the Spanish Olympic squad who are currently participating in the European Championship. Other nations cannot rely on a duty to retire , but receive more support from their clubs overall. " And how is it going in this country? "In 2016 we went from door to door with Hansi Flick as DFB sports director and Horst Hrubesch as Olympic coach and fought for every player. We are doing that again now," says Chazialexiou and emphasizes that there are also positive examples: "Union Berlin, for example, supported us very well. Although the club starts in the Europa Conference League, it acts in the interests of the boys and releases two offensive players for the Olympics, Max Kruse and Cedric Teuchert. Hertha also supports us with two players. That deserves respect. "

    WHAT BECAME OF THE U-21 GOAL SCOOTER KINGS In addition, FC Augsburg, in addition to the guaranteed participation of Marco Richter, is also cooperative when it comes to the clearance of central defender Felix Uduokhai. Chatzialexiou: "It is rightly said that our players with perspective need tournament experience in order to develop. That is why we are, for example, about releasing Uduokhai, who has already been nominated for the A-team, and Niklas Dorsch (under contract with KAA Gent, Editor's note), who played an outstanding U-21 European Championship, will fight until the end of the nomination period. " The chances are obviously not that bad. On the other hand, Kuntz and Chatzialexiou have to cope with the surprising withdrawal of U-21 European champion Jonathan Burkardt. The Mainz attacker wants to stay with the club after sports director Christian Heidel confirmed Burkardt's release on Sunday when he asked for a kicker.

    According to kicker information from Bremen, Luca Plogmann and Svend Brodersen, who will initially be without a club from tomorrow Thursday after the contract with FC St. Pauli expires, are in goal.

    All in all, the Olympic squad continues to be a complicated puzzle. "An expectation that we, as the newly crowned U-21 European champion, will automatically be a candidate for a medal at the Olympics, is difficult to meet if one cannot draw on the full in terms of personnel," says Chatzialexiou. "Nevertheless we will have a good team again and we will try to get the most out of it."
    https://www.kicker.de/kampf-um-dors...chlands-olympia-kader-aussehen-808702/artikel
     
  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Just to make it clear post 1 is NOT FINAL SQUAD, just a possible one,
    The DFB and DOSB do not want to publicly present the squad until Monday.
     
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  5. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Max Kruse for the Golden Boot.

    Is that squad speculation or likely to be accurate?
     
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  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    @Epitome990 would totaly be thrilled with that!:thumbsup:

    interesting to note,
    2016 Olympics top scorer=shared between Gnabry and Petersen
    2019 U21 Euro top scorer=Waldschmidt
    2021 U21 Euro top scorer=Nmecha

    that's 3 German CFs, so yeah let's get a 4 with Kruse. Would be last 2 Olympics and last 2 U21 Euro.
     
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  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I decided to start thread early to bring some enthusiasm to the board after Germany bombing with Seniors.

    3 weeks out from tourney too.
     
  8. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  9. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Will Hansi coach this team?
     
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    nope Kuntz as he's U21/U23 coach.
     
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  11. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Seems like a decent mixture of players all things considered if certain options are either resting or preparing for the upcoming competitive season. Not too many major concerns, apart from the 2 back up keepers especially with Brodersen chosen. But not 3rd string keeper isn't a big priority.

    Maybe a potential starting XI:

    ----------------------Kruse---------------
    Jakobs------------Arnold------------Richter
    ----------------Maier--------Dorsch-------
    Raum-Schlotterbeck-Uduokhai--Henrichs
    ---------------------Mueller--------------
     
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  12. MatthausSammer

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    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Thank you for that clarification.
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Max Kruse, on the other hand, was not part of the 25-person training group. Union initially stated that Kruse was absent for reasons of "individual stress control". Manager Oliver Ruhnert later stated that the attacker had been vaccinated on Wednesday due to his participation in the Olympic football tournament (July 22nd to August 7th). "That's why he was not allowed to be charged on Thursday," said Ruhnert and added: "Everyone who goes to the Olympics has received the vaccine from Johnson & Johnson."

    Unlike Kruse, Cedric Teuchert took part in the training because the offensive player had already been vaccinated, according to Ruhnert. As the DFB announced on Wednesday, Kruse and Teuchert are going to the summer games in Japan. The club did not confirm this, however. "We don't have the final confirmation yet," said Ruhnert, but also emphasized: "It is right that we would generally turn it off."
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    On Monday the DFB and DOSB announce the Olympic squad. The name of Wolfsburg's Maximilian Arnold (27) will also appear in the footballer selection. New coach Mark van Bommel (44) gave the green light for this: “We thought about it well and made a good decision. Of course, I would have loved to have him on the training ground. But it's a big challenge for him. "

    Van Bommel is delighted Arnold's participation in the Olympics With the nomination of U21 and Olympic trainer Stefan Kuntz (58), VfL will miss a large part of the preparation. On the other hand, participating in the tournament is a unique experience and a reward for his great development. It is conceivable that Arnold will even lead the DFB selection onto the pitch as captain. With or without a bandage, the midfield director should lead the young team with his experience. Kuntz trusts him. Both became U21 European champions together in 2017.
     
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    @Blueberry_night

    After the EM is before the Olympics - will the "Kuntzstück" succeed?
    For coach Stefan Kuntz it could be the last tournament for the time being. It's done! Captain Arne Maier runs in front of his team with the EM trophy and holds it up. Next to him, the other players are in each other's arms, Niklas Dorsch waving a Germany towel wildly in front of him. While the players are tightly embraced and grab the trophy, Stefan Kuntz stands a few meters behind the cheering team with his arms outstretched and a gold medal around his neck.

    In the midst of the celebrants, the trainer appears balanced and reflective. U21 European champion for the second time It's been four weeks since coach Stefan Kuntz became European champion for the second time with the German U21 national team. Also - or precisely because - Kuntz managed to form a unit on and next to the square in just a few days. Already in 2017, two years after taking office, Kuntz led the youngsters to the title. In contrast to the poor performances of the senior national team, which ultimately led to the knockout round of 16 against England, the U21 convinced as a single unit during the European Championship. Team spirit, willingness to run and commitment, paired with a high quality in the gate closure, formed the foundation for success. And on the sidelines, Kuntz acted as a quiet moderator, who with his charisma and his relaxed manner ensured the balance within the team.

    Kuntz always reached the U21 final Since taking office in 2016, Kuntz has reached the final of every U21 tournament. Not only because of this, the ex-Kaiserslauterer was next to Hansi Flick as one of the hottest contenders for the post of outgoing national coach Joachim Löw.

    At the Olympic Games, Kuntz wants to continue the success story. For the tournament in Tokyo, which begins for the German national soccer team on July 22nd, Kuntz has to appoint an 18-strong U23 team, in which three players may be born before 1997.

    Max Kruse in the squad?
    In addition to numerous young talents from the successful U21 year, the Bundesliga legionaries Max Kruse, Maximilian Arnold and Mahmoud Dahoud can also hope for a nomination, provided they are released from their clubs for the tournament. Because even if they are eliminated in the group stage, the players miss a few weeks in preparation for the new season. Several players from the southwest Some players from the southwest are also faced with an appeal.

    Goalkeeper newcomer Florian Müller has already received the green light from VfB Stuttgart and will most likely be number one in Tokyo between the posts.

    Newcomer David Raum from Fürth will probably be there from Hoffenheim.
    At the U21 European Championships, Raum drew attention to himself on the left back mainly with his physical and strong game. In addition to David Raum, Freiburg's Keven Schlotterbeck could make his debut on the Olympic team. The 24-year-old is benefiting from the postponement of the Olympics and is eligible to play since 1997. In contrast to his brother Nico Schlotterbeck, he will probably receive a clearance from his club.

    What will happen to Jonathan Burkardt?
    Mainz sports director Christian Heidel has already signaled that he also wants to release Jonathan Burkardt for the games in Tokyo. Burkardt was used in every game at the U21 European Championship and scored one goal. But according to the "kicker" the attacker decided not to go to Tokyo.

    The final cadre nomination will probably not be announced by Kuntz until July 5th. It is quite possible that there will be a few surprises in addition to the players mentioned.

    Kuntz's future is still uncertain
    At the last Olympic Games in 2016, the German national team only failed on penalties in the final against Brazil. Then Kuntz took over the post of U21 coach from Horst Hrubesch. While the senior national team has since slipped from one crisis to the next, the U21's appearances under the direction of Stefan Kuntz were marked by success. It is precisely these junior years that form the foundation for the upcoming tournament in Tokyo and for the coming years in the senior national team.

    The future of Stefan Kuntz is still uncertain despite the DFB contract until 2023. According to his own statement, the 58-year-old will only think about it after the Olympic Games. As he himself says, "in peace and with a little distance." Just in the style of Stefan Kuntz.
    https://www.swr.de/sport/fussball/n...fan-kuntz-spieler-aus-dem-suedwesten-100.html
     
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Richter and Uduokhai want to go to Tokyo
    In the course of the preparation Weinzierl will probably have to do without two other players: Marco Richter and Felix Uduokhai want to go to Japan with the German team for the Olympic football tournament (July 22nd to August 7th).

    The DFB must name its squad by a FIFA deadline this Friday. While Richter is firmly planned, there was still a need for discussion at Uduokhai. The central defender had to undergo an ankle surgery in May, which is why the assessment of the medical department is in demand.

    "If there is any risk, then it is impossible. But it looks good, he went through everything in training," said Weinzierl after the first session. Manager Stefan Reuter also wants to fulfill the players' Olympic dream in principle:

    "If a player is fit and wants to play a tournament like this, then our attitude is that we want to allow him that." However, Reuter finds the timing of the tournament unhappy: "If you go, we want you to make it to the final. That is on the weekend on which the cup takes place." Should the FCA be successful in recruiting Niklas Dorsch, the same problem could arise with him: Dorsch is also a candidate for the Olympics, which the DFB absolutely wants to have in Japan.
     
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  17. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
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    Borussia Dortmund
    Nice article thanks @Ger90
     
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  18. BorisG

    BorisG Member+

    Sep 30, 2009
    Namibia
    Club:
    FC Nürnberg
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    is this the official team? Coached by Kuntz?
     
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  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
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    Germany
    coached by Kuntz yes but not official although a lot on that list have been confirmed.

    that squad list is kicker's too.
     
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  20. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Groups for the Olympics:


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    Germany's schedule:


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    From Group D, Germany's toughest opponent will be Brazil. Looks like Ivory Coast's final roster hasn't been announced yet.

    Here's Brazil's selection:

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  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Brazil team not young from
    98-99 only 2 players (including 1 GK)
    00=3 players

    10 97s+3 Overage+2 98-99+3 00s=18 players
     
  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    according to Bild, 00 RB/LB Vagnoman will got to Olympics.
    While there are discussions about participation between clubs and associations for some players, HSV supports the nomination of the U21 European champions. Vagnoman will miss the second division games at Schalke (July 23rd) and against Dresden (August 1st) as well as the first round of the cup due to the trip to Japan.

    why do I feel like since HSV want to make $$$ and Vagnoman is one of most pricey players they have. They are hoping he impress so to increase his price even more....
     
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  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Big announcement.

    AP source: IOC to expand soccer rosters to 22 for Olympics


    Olympic soccer rosters will be expanded from 18 players to 22 for the Tokyo Olympics, a person with knowledge of the change told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

    Teams can include 22 players on squads, but must stay with 18 on team sheets for individual matches, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the change had not been formally announced by the International Olympic Committee.

    The change was considered because of the challenges teams faced as a result of the pandemic.

    Olympic squads are normally limited to 18 players plus four alternates. An alternate can be substituted for an injured player, but the injured player is not allowed to return to the tournament.

    Under the change, alternates are now considered part of the full roster, but teams can only make 18 players available per game. Although details have not been made public, it is presumed that teams will not be able to add alternates beyond those already named.

    Netherlands coach Sarina Wiegman was among those who advocated for roster expansion. FIFA, soccer’s international governing body, appealed to the IOC.

    The expanded rosters should give coaches more flexibility during a tight Olympic schedule with limited rest time between matches, as well as expected heat and humidity in Tokyo.

    Olympic rosters differ from those allowed for the World Cup, which include 23 players. Historically at the Olympics, an alternate could be brought in for an injured player at any time during the tournament, whereas World Cup rosters are set as of the first match and injured players can’t be replaced.

    Wednesday was the deadline for countries competing in the Olympic soccer tournament to finalize their rosters.

    U.S. women’s national team coach Vlatko Andonovski said Wednesday he anticipated some kind of change to the roster rules.

    “We’re getting word from the IOC that we will have a little flexibility on the roster. We’re very happy about it, and as of right now we’re just waiting to see a little more details on what all the rules and regulations are going to look like,” Andonovski said.

    Because there had been previous talk about using expanded rosters, Andonovski said he was preparing for that possibility.

    “Obviously we thought about about it, we were preparing in some ways for it if it happened, so we’re hoping to be ready if the changes are in place,” Andonovski said.
    https://apnews.com/article/internat...kyo-olympics-f13246c9c7e38b1ad0e1b93ffd80ea45
     
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
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    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Dortmund player Reinier (loaned from Real) added to Olympics. Why is Dortmund even keeping him around. Just axe his loan already.


    June 17th was a disappointing day for Reinier: The offensive player in the service of Borussia Dortmund (on loan from Real Madrid) was not nominated for the Olympic Games that day as hoped. Although he was used regularly in qualifying, the Brazilian selection had no place for him in the 18-man squad.

    But two weeks later, the good news for the 19-year-old follows: The IOC expanded the squad size for the tournament. All participants are now allowed to take 22 players with them to Tokyo, from which Reinier also benefits. As he himself announced via Instagram, he can now play for a gold medal for his country.

    For loan club Borussia Dortmund, however, the news is not entirely positive: Reinier will miss a large part of the preparation due to his participation in the Olympic football tournament. Should Brazil reach the final, he would even be challenged until August 7th. On the same weekend, BVB will play the first competitive game of the new season in the DFB Cup.
     
  25. Ger90

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    FC Bayern München
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    Germany

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