Okay, bottom line it: what, exactly IS Al-Qaeda?

dude, keep posting this stuff and the governments gonna come after you...

 

An organization with more money than sense.

A lose organization of nationalistic insurgencies.

UBL's play toy since he doesn't have anything better to do.

A magnet for disaffected Muslims, especially from Europe.

An organization made mostly of hip shooters that UBL has tried to train into soldiers.

An organization that was in decline on 9/11 looking for a more spectacular way to more effectively attack the US which has since been shattered.

An interesting link:
Poindexter aimed to predict terrorist attacks by identifying telltale patterns of activity in arrests, passport applications, visas, work permits, driver's licenses, car rentals and airline ticket buys as well as credit transactions and education, medical and housing records.

The research created a political uproar because such reviews of millions of transactions could put innocent Americans under suspicion. One of Poindexter's own researchers, David D. Jensen at the University of Massachusetts, acknowledged that "high numbers of false positives can result."

Disturbed by the privacy implications, Congress last fall closed Poindexter's office, part of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and barred the agency from continuing most of his research. Poindexter quit the government and complained that his work had been misunderstood.

The work, however, did not die.

 

I have suspected for a while that something along these lines was the case with Al-Quaeda.

But, to be honest, there a LOT of things that could happen that i would say that about. You could tell me that every "member" of al queda as well as all the "insurgents" fighting in falluja are CIA operatives instructed to keep this war going at all costs, so it can survive as a business venture for Bush's friends on Wall Street, and i would still say "Yeah, I've suspoected for a while that that was the case"

So, in the end, my opiniong really doens't mean a whole lot. But there you have it anyways.

 

Really?? You wanna know??

Al-Qaeda has done the following:

2/1993 Bombing of World Trade Center; 6 killed.

1994 Investigation of the WTC bombing reveals that it was only a small part of a massive attack plan that included hijacking a plane and crashing it into CIA headquarters.

6/1996 Truck bomb explodes outside Khobar Towers military complex in Saudi Arabia; 19 American servicemen killed, hundreds of others injured.

8/1998 Bombing of U.S. embassies in East Africa; 224 killed including 12 Americans.

12/1999 Plot to bomb millennium celebrations in Seattle foiled when customs agents arrest an Algerian smuggling explosives into the U.S. Other Algerians subsequently arrested were alumni of Al Qaeda camps.

Jordanian police arrested members of a al Qaeda cell planning attacks against Western tourists.

10/2000 Bombing of the USS Cole in port in Yemen; 17 U.S. sailors killed.

9/11/2001 Destruction of WTC, attack on Pentagon.

4/11/2002 Explosion at ancient synogogue in Tunisia leaves 17 dead, including 11 German tourists.

5/2002 Car explodes outside hotel in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 14, including 11 French citizens.

6/2002 Bomb explodes outside American Consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12.

10/2002 Nightclub bombings in Bali, Indonesia, kill 202, mostly Australian citizens. Suicide attack on a hotel in Mombasa, Kenya, kills 16.

5/2003 Suicide bombers kill 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

Four bombs kill 33 people, targeting Jewish, Spanish, and Belgian sites in Casablanca, Morocco.

8/2003 Suicide car bomb kills 12, injures 150, at Marriott Hotel in Jakarta, Indonesia.

11/2003 Explosions rock a Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, housing compound killing 17.

Suicide car bombers simultaneously attack two synagogues in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 25 and injuring hundreds. The following week a British bank in Istanbul is bombed.

3/2004 Bombs explode almost simultaneously during the morning rush hour in Madrid, Spain, killing 202 and injuring more than 1,400. A Moroccan affiliate of al-Qaeda claims responsibility.

5/29–31/2004 Attack on the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, then take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound. After a stand-off, three of the four assailants escape, leaving 22 people dead, all but three of them foreigners.

6/11–19/2004 Kidnapping and execution Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Nearly a week after his capture, photos of his body are posted on an Islamist website. Saudi security forces find and kill four suspected terrorists, including the self-proclaimed military leader of al-Qaeda in Saudi Arabia, after they are seen dumping a body.

And all but one of these plots were successful! How many others have been foiled that we haven't heard about??

I am sorry this notion of "Gee, what is Al Qaeda??" is in the end just a naive deep seated hope that maybe the acts of terrorists are just a "nuisance" and that, really, we've basically emasculated them, and, gee, maybe it will all just go away and leave us alone.

Not.

 

word.

 

Karl, not understanding the difference between "done" and "is."

Which is why we always laugh at him.

 

Like if he cares.

 

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
- Sun Tzu bitches

 

What's in a name?

-Bill Shakespeare

 

I'm gonna tape myself pissing on you.

-R. Kelly

 

So anyway I'd be rubbing your big boobs and getting your nipples really hard, kinda kissing your neck from behind... and then I would take the other hand with the falafel thing and I'd put it on your ********** but you'd have to do it really light, just kind of a tease business.

-Bill O'reilly

 

I see you're comming around Mel. Soon you'll be aying that Bush's biggest problem was cynically pushing the WMD idea for the war when he should have used the language of JFK.

That's been done 1000x's on this forum. Maybe 10,000x. You must be after something new. If not then I'd have to ask why you haven't payed attention the past 1000x and what would be different now. Perhaps the problem isn't the information but your willingness to accept it.

 

I thought they were a non-profit charity that built schools, daycare centers, and installed indoor plumbing.

Sen. Patty Murray said, according to the Vancouver paper, that bin Laden has been "out in these countries for decades, building schools, building roads, building infrastructure, building day care facilities, building health care facilities, and the people are extremely grateful. We haven't done that."

 

Here's a link to a thread I started. It even talks about a book (aka a hard copy of a website).

https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135530&page=1

I think it hit's on your point fairly well even if it doesn't drive it home. Then again you seem to be as exacting in your requirements as Ebinizer Scrooge. I'm no Bob Cratchet so I'll leave it up to you to look for the last $0.01. Do your own search. Garcia posted a note about doing searches given to him by some guy Mel. Perhaps if you were as astute in reading as you are in writing you might have noticed it. Perhaps you would have read one of the ten thousand threads on this since 9/11. Start listening Mel. Stop talking. You might just have something to learn from someone else. Maybe.

 

Here, Mel. A description today from al-Zawahiri himself:

"We are a nation of patience," al-Zawahiri said. "And we will resist to fight you, God willing, until the last minute."

So now they're a nation. Kind of like a twisted pan-Arabism for disaffected & murderous Islamofascists. No borders necessarily, only those with similar anti-Western, nutty ideologies need apply. That's why eternal vigilance by all nations interested in combating the menace is necessary. Esp. nations like Saudi Arabia & Pakistan.