Right. My point was that once such a thing as the camps exists, they won't need a pretense like "his or her parents are illegals" to put citizens in them.
Not to excuse it but the one person who does say this stuff is rather loud and repetitive about it. Especially on social media. I know a few people like that, and they are exhausting to say the least.
Well, when you say, 'Once such camps exist', there have been detention facilities in the US and pretty much ALL western countries for years, I think the point is there's a huge difference between an individual being kept while enquiries are carried out as to whether he should, or even can, be returned to his home country if evidence has come to light he's in a country without documents, and an industrial and wide-scale sweep of anyone who looks vaguely 'foreign' by an administration who have set out to round people up to threaten and intimidate the public. I remember reading that the Obama administration had returned something like 2.5 million people but I doubt most of those occurred because of random collections and imprisonment of people who looked 'a bit dodgy' according to some idiot racist. Trump's policy is part of a racist and xenophobic agenda and will be vigorously pursued by every similar cop or authority figure with a peaked cap.
that was the next part of Lasts thesis. People are voting because they heard or read something they don’t like somewhere in a diverse country then claiming this is the fault of Biden and Harris unserious.
And as garbage and immoral as that will be, it may be the best thing. Let Trump voters see how terrible it is when their family members or a parent in the house next door get rounded up, leaving kids behind or being forced to take them too. And the price of their eggs and produce and restaurant and construction projects goes up. Apparently that’s what people care about.
You keep saying that an outsider/disruptor would do well (win), but other than Trump, you have provided no evidence. And I don't buy it. There have been several outsiders/disruptors in the past three election cycles, and the only one to win is a cult leader. Even a long serving traditional government person beat that disruptor. Also, your first and second points can be contradictory. One of the things I'm sure you know from Longwell's focus groups is that Harris was viewed as a forced choice and many (even some Black women) objected to her candidacy because of that. So a real primary would make a big difference, not only in honing a message, but getting people to know the candidate (which was also a problem for Harris). Maybe either of those, but I think the important part is being able to have a clear and simple message. As I have said, and I will continue to say, I agree that the male part is correct (at this point), but I think the White part is not as important. We are making this assumption from a sample size of 1 (that a female of color cannot win). But a female being elected I think is more difficult. Not just because of the inherent sexism that does exist, but because we have a lack of females in prominent positions which focus on the economy or business (which is the top issue in every election). Every now and then there are reports of a female CEO being brought in to run failing or struggling companies, and then get ousted when the company gets fixed. This, to me, removes the position of a female being able to be successful at running a big public company. (I also keep seeing how Cathy Wood of Ark Investments gets criticized in a way that her male peers do not.) When we get more females in those prominent positions, then we will see a better possibility of a female President.
Bel Edwards? Come on mate....The dude was La governor good for him but he is also an "pro-life" absolutist and would not have a chance ij a democratic primary and rightly so.
Trump had run three times and his one loss wad to a white male. He has defeated 2 women. An easy way to reach white males is run a white male. Your party automatically looks like there is room for them in your party.
I am just thinking of white males that are Dem that won speaking simply to simple folks. I am not married to him but I am thinking guys like him.
Isn't the fact that Obama ran on 'Hope' and 'Change' an indication that voters are sick of the 'business as usual' politics and that's been the case for a while now.
The question is: will they riot against Trump when he repeals the ACA? I doubt it. They'll figure out some way to blame it on the dems.
He is what set off the tea party and this new dark age of American politics. Just a white guy talking about things are unfair and the rich need to pay their share is important.
Or the feds end up in a bloody heap. I don't think you realize how quickly shit is going south when people start getting picked up. For example -- if I was a Dreamer and somebody came to my house to haul away my parents? Luigi would have nothing on me.
I have already seen the “Obama and Biden stole billions from healthcare and social security forcing Trump to make cuts” bullshit on Facebook. From my mom.
Sure. I mean the state already does this to POC in unaccountable ways. Normies just don't experience it.
Well, that's what I was saying. Trump and his minions don't have to invent anything or set up something new. He just needs to greatly expand the existing system and use it in ways for which it was never intended. I don't know about the states and people 'not knowing about them', however. Over here places like Scrampton, Manston and facilities like the Bibby Stockholm' were in the news constantly a year or so back. According to professor google's AI, of the 130k people claiming asylum at the end of last year, the majority were in hotels whilst around 15k were in detention camps of various sorts But now imagine a new administration who plans to use that system to round up and, essentially, imprison hundreds of thousands... even millions of people whilst their status is 'reviewed'. The thing to bear in mind is that asylum seekers are just that - they are people who have claimed asylum. In the US, as I understand it, that's not what we're talking about for the majority of people under discussion. We're talking about people who turned up and haven't claimed anything. They're just there. I mean, where would you even start to figure out where those people are? It seems obvious to me that, as it's being discussed, everyone who looks vaguely 'foreign' will be the target of harassment and possible detention. Also, in the same way and for the same reason as the UK, it's possible that people who have claimed asylum, (regardless of whether it's been granted), might be in a better position than those that haven't because at least their status would be recognised.