Oh no…the Leopards ate my face thread

The thing is it's about branding. Harris outlined plans more progressive than Sanders but people don't know or believe that because of how she is considered establishment and he is anti-establishment. Democrats need to take money from their donors and work to start creating their own media ecosystem.

 

It's not accurate, obviously. You only have to listen to any black or brown Trump supporter to know they're JUST as likely to be an idiot as anyone else. There are just a lot fewer of them as even the dimmest bulb is capable if he's the target of the abuse and attacks.

 

Gass/egg price group can be summed up by the perception of how well the economy was doing shifting across party lines the day after the election.

 

I don’t think the problem is that we no longer talk about politics. I think the problem is that a lot of America (middle class, not extremely religious nor ardently secular white America especially) never really talked politics at all because it was deemed “impolite” to do so. And by the time we got around to taking about politics, the “culture wars” and siloed media was already emerging with things like talk radio. So we went from very rarely talking politics to talking when the importance of the skill was extremely high.

Today, we can simplify white America into 6 electorates. All between 10-15% of voters, so each about the same size as the Black or Hispanic electorate. Degree/no degree subdivided into self described Evangelicals, non-Evagelical Christians and non-Christians.

No Degree Evangelical: 74pts Trump
No Degree Other Christian: 38pts Trump
No Degree Non Christian: 12pts Harris

Degree Evangelical: 52pts Trump
Degree Other Christian: 6pts Harris
Degree Non Christian: 64pts Harris.

Huge differences.

Obviously a gross simplification in the same way we can’t look at the Hispanic, Asian or Black votes as monoliths, but religious faith traditions and education, more than gender/geography/income, are more deterministic of how one views the world and politics. And campaigns on the right and left both play these differences. They can’t be ignored, because anyone interested in winning a campaign can’t ignore differences in 70% of the electorate. It is very difficult to talk about what “White America” does or doesn’t do, because White America is very different things due to its size, religious diversity and the fact it wasn’t directly affected by racism.

 

Did they even vote? The low turnout numbers that dumb "uncommitted" vote thing earlier in the year makes me wonder.

 

If the national exit poll correctly sampled, the answer is “no”. 30-44 year old electorate share stayed the same, but 18-29 dropped from 17% to 13%. Some of that could be explained by Gen Z being slightly fewer in numbers than than the now 30-34 year olds they are replacing in the 18-29 subdemo, but that doesn’t explain a 25% or so reduction.

 

I think one aspect of the whole "we need a liberal Rogan" thing that is often times overlooked when discussing hypothetical solutions to lure some of that angry young men demo back to the Dems is that Rogan is just the tip of the spear.
There is a whole eco-system of podcasts - largely populated by unfunny and/or asshole comics - out there sympathetic to MAGA/Trump, or at least willing to carry water for the movement to a certain extent.
Trump appeared on several of their pods during his campaign. Theo Von, Andrew Schulz. All people you could not pay me to listen to, but who have large followings of largely younger men.
Many of these podcasts are hosted by people in Rogan's sphere or friendly with Rogan.

So what you actually need is like a whole cluster of such digital media personalities to counter balance the existing Trumpy group.

So "We need a Liberal Rogan" is actually more accurately "We need to create a digital media cluster populated by individuals who appeal to young men and broadcast Dem friendly messaging".

Easier said than done.

 

My clarification broadly agrees with a lot of political scientists that the working class has felt ignored by the political liberal establishment and has thus abandoned them... that this occurred during the past 4+ decades and that the democratic party in the states must take their share of responsibility for that. Some voters have actually gone to the right, (probably because they were always that way inclined in the first place), whilst some have just tuned out from politics.

And your response is... nah!

Well, powerful argument you've constructed there counsellor

 

This shows how much more important religion is than education when it comes to voting preferences. There are much larger differences between those that have the same education level but different religions than those that have the same religion but different education obtainment.

 

It's self explanatory. And he's right.

 

Buchanan called for the killing of the Central Park Five. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Trump bit off Buchanan's style there.

 

He doesn't know about your time and place. Neither do I. That's because our families don't have these kind of... people... in them. We were reared to believe that there is no wrong time to do the right thing.

 

He's just anti war. That doesn't mean he's not a racist POS

 

The kids could all show up for rumbles in Lyfts.