Oh no…the Leopards ate my face thread

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  1. Knave

    Knave Member+

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    Too late many "conservatives" are learning that "conservatism" was just a beard for fascism.
     
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  2. song219

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    I'm sure he still wants to pretend that "states rights" were about states rights.
     
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  3. bigredfutbol

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    In fairness, I do think some conservatives used "states rights" as synonym for "federalism".

    But...not many of them.
     
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  4. Jeremy Goodwin

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    #6379 Jeremy Goodwin, Dec 12, 2025
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    States rights, from the beginning, has been a dog whistle for white supremacy and the union of government with protestantism. To believe otherwise would require one to either be monumentally ignorant of US history, or to have been raised to swallow the lie of the daughters of the Confederacy with the hook, line, and sinker attached.

    Merry Christmas!
     
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  5. bigredfutbol

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    #6380 bigredfutbol, Dec 12, 2025
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    I’m aware of the provenance. I’m saying that some people conflate it with federalism.

    EDIT: I get that we're saying the same thing in different ways.
     
  6. soccernutter

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    In the current day, that ignorance is easy achieve since we have never properly dealt with slavery and the subsequent repercussions down the decades/centuries.
     
  7. superdave

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    You had me until that last word, which elicited a “huh?”
     
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  8. ElNaranja

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    If you're going to make fun of one of the most oppressed groups this millennium at least get their message right. They were tired of seeing their party contribute to genociding their people. And sending dumb***** to talk down to them and gaslight didn't help. Dems royally f***** up courting their vote.

    The community, those that voted for the Felon, are still dum******* but the blame isn't quite so one sided compared to other faceless people.
     
  9. Kazuma

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    Please learn what "genocide" means before saying it like a little boy that just discovered swearing.

    And also realize that Arab Americans were going Republican in 2022 because a lot of them hate women and gays.
     
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  10. Belgian guy

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    Around 0.9% of Americans identify as Muslims and analysis following the election came to the conclusion that the angry Arab vote almost certainly did not swing the election, in none of the swing states Kamala Harris lost, not even in Michigan. In Michigan, the state with the largest Muslim population among the traditional swing states, the margin of victory was over three times larger than the monitored Dem to GOP swing in Dearborn, Dearborn Heights and Hamtramck.

    The continued focus on this tiny group is bizarre.

    Trump II as well as Trump I is owed almost entirely to the white demographic. And almost is doing such heavy lifting in that sentence it should try out for Olympic weightlifting.
     
  11. Kazuma

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    Listen to him, he knows everything.

    This is the "Oh no, Leopards ate my face thread." Something I've had to point out to you a few times this year. Arab Americans (Not Muslims, Arab Americans, huge difference) decided to vote Trump in because Gaza, hatred of gays, and hatred of women. Arab Americans were warned what would happen. Many of them scoffed. Many of them ended up being surprised that the things that would happen, is happening. So when the mayor of Dearborn (who is a Dem) who made it a point to attack Dems and Biden only to scream, "Do something!" when Trump is doing the things he's doing.

    People wanted this, they got it. This time around I'm not so sympathetic. Goes for a lot of people.
     
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  12. Belgian guy

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    If Arab-Americans had voted like they had for Biden in 2020, Kamala Harris still loses. That is the entire point I am trying to make. They did not vote Trump in because their vote share was too small to sway even Michigan either way.
     
  13. Kazuma

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    Dude, why do you do this?

    The point of this thread is to mock or scorn people who voted for Trump and are then surprised that what they voted for is harming them. It is not to discuss how if the election went different Harris would be President. It is to mock the voter who maybe voted Trump because they wanted lower costs. Then they're surprised that food prices have gone up because Trump loves tariffs. Or it's the young voter who is worried about the economy* and are then surprised that the job market isn't great. Or it's as mentioned, Arab Americans deciding to vote Trump for a bunch of reasons and are then surprised at the consequences.

    Again, Leopards Ate My Face, not electoral analysis.

    *: Which makes this more hilarious for me, because my generation was either just starting out or in college during the 2008 crash and Great Recession. And we didn't vote Obama out over it.
     
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  14. Naughtius Maximus

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    Just on that specific point, according to Professor Google's AI,

    A majority of Arab Americans are not Muslim; it is estimated that approximately 60 to 80 percent identify as Christian, while roughly 24 to 25 percent are Muslim.

    "Arab" is an ethno-linguistic and cultural identity, not a religious one. The Arab American community in the U.S. is religiously diverse and includes people of many different faiths, as well as those with no religious affiliation.

    So you're right, there's a difference, but... aren't most of the ones that were concerned about Gaza, (in particular), women and gay people, muslims?

    The arab christians and muslims often don't get on particularly well in the middle east so it's hard to imagine too many christian arabs throwing themselves under the bus purely for the people in Gaza.

    The dislike of gay people and women might be an issue but, MORE than it was when Biden was elected? really??

    It's hard to see it as THAT significant, tbh.
     
  15. Naughtius Maximus

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    Y'know he's belgian, right? :cautious:

    :giggle:
     
  16. Kryptonite

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    It's the same thing with all those Latinos for Trump.

    Oh well. When Daddy comes around with ICE, oh well. There's not much to do other than sit and laugh.
     
  17. Kazuma

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    Arab Americans in Michigan back in 2022 went hard for Tudor Dixon and I mean hard. Specifically Hamtramck and Dearborn. Gaza if anything, was just a convenient cover. Also on the ballot in 2022? Abortion.

    Not to mention the whole pride flag fiasco in Hamtramck. But that town is also showing a lot of corruption issues at the moment.
     
  18. Kazuma

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    As I've said many times, they wanted this, they got it.
     
  19. ElNaranja

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    Jul 16, 2017
    https://www.un.org/en/genocide-prevention/definition

    You're right. Israel never engaged in any of those acts and the US certainly didn't help them do any of that. Totally not a genocide.

    https://www.un.org/unispal/document...n-the-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds-16sep25/

    Oh.
     
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  20. Kazuma

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  21. ElNaranja

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    :rolleyes:
     
  22. Deadtigers

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    Or you can quit excusing genocide because it doesnt meet your standard but meets the standard of several global organizations.
     
  23. Funkfoot

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    Criticize Israel all you want, just apply the same standards to the Palestinians.
     
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  24. Funkfoot

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    Back on topic...

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  25. diablodelsol

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