Oh no…the Leopards ate my face thread

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  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    What in the…???

    Historically Muslims have been better on racism and xenophobia than Christians. Far from perfect, but better.
     
  2. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator

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    I think Auria's original is better. Most of the Muslim men in Dearborn were never going to vote for a woman. One thing that conservative men across religions can agree on is that women are beneath them.
     
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  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Ah ok. I missed that post.
     
  4. soccernutter

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  5. russ

    russ Member+

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    "Please sir",he said with tears in his eyes,"if I have to hire local wypipo,they won't show unless I pay 20 an hour and give them time and a half and smoke breaks.Ill go bankrupt!"
    DJT:
    "I've gone bankrupt eight times.No big deal!"
     
  6. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

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    #5006 diablodelsol, Jun 12, 2025
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    The entire LGBTQ checking into the chat….yeah…sexism is the only area where they’re breaking bread.

    edit to add…I’m not positive but I think there are way more Muslim women in Congress that Muslim men…so I’m not sure sexism was anywhere near the deal breaker you’re making out here.
     
  7. Sounders78

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    A number of years ago World Pride was being held in Jerusalem. Leave it to the LGBT+ community to unite the three Abrahamic religions there in opposing Pride.
     
  8. soccernutter

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    He did specify "conservative."
     
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  9. taosjohn

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    Dec 23, 2004
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    I wonder-- I'd guess more liberals voted for them than Muslim men...
     
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  10. diablodelsol

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    I’m sure there is polling out there that would show one way or another. I’m not sure this is the case.

    But Muslim Americans have been drifting away from the Dem party for some time. I’d suggest that the cause of that drift has a hell of a lot more to do with the Democratic Party’s acceptance of the LGBTQ community than it had with Dems running more women candidates.

    And finally….this conversation in general is a bit reductive and offensive to Muslim Americans as they were pretty damn clear why they were “uncommitted”. And that was Kamala’s failure to break from the Biden administrations policy on Israel. Whether or not that’s due to anti semitism is a debate better had in the Hamas/Israel thread. But they were clear.

    We were clear that for however bad you think biden’s policies are…Trump would be way way worse….not only for Palestinians…but for all of you here as well. They didn’t head that warning….hence why I am pleased when they make an appearance here.


    And finally….and this is a new thought for me…but the justification I had for Kamala’s failure to distinguish herself from Biden (such that I assumed she would have wanted to) was that you really can’t do that when you are also a member of said administration. In retrospect….had she wanted to take a different approach, on the issue of Palestine and Bibi’s handling of this…or any other matter of importance to the coalition of voters she needed to get elected…she should have resigned as VP the moment she was the nominee. I do wonder if she would not be president right now had she done so.
     
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  11. superdave

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    Y'all have a gift
     
  12. taosjohn

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    Keep in mind "more liberals" is a counting stat, not a rate stat. Even in Michigan there are so many more liberals than Muslims that a low percentage of liberals is likely to swamp a moderate or even high percentage of Muslims.
     
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  13. diablodelsol

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    True.

    but the elected officials I’m referring to aren’t state wide offices. We’re talking about the demographics of their districts…not their state.
     
  14. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

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    Donde siempre
  15. Belgian guy

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    I guess that memo never got around to stopping Benazir Bhutto's political career.
     
  16. usscouse

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    Lets see how this goes down as a rallying point against the Nazism. That issue was over when Padilla was pushed out of the office. But 3 thugs had to take him down.​
    All for this fat lipped lying puppy shooting tool.

    IMG_8113.jpeg

    "I'm U.S. Senator Alex Padilla. I have questions for the secretary."
     
  17. dapip

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    Nope. A black woman was too much for some people who came against Trump in 2020, even if they still didn't vote for him (they just stayed home).
     
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  18. diablodelsol

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    #5018 diablodelsol, Jun 13, 2025
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    Yep. You’re absolutely correct. People who led, championed and gave national voice to the uncommitted movement, like Pramila Jayapal, clandestinely did so because electing a black woman was just too much for them and merely used our enablement of the complete annihilation of Gaza as cover for their real sexist motives.

    I stand corrected. Apologies as that didn’t occur to me.
     
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  19. taosjohn

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    ...And so Trump has at least demonstrated to the Democrats that the US' "enablement" does constitute real control over Israel's policy and behavior...

    Oh.

    Wait.

    This just in... "Israel raises middle finger to Trump's Iran policy..."
     
  20. superdave

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    This guy is part of the anti anti Trump left. His face has been prepped, marinated, and sauteed, but he doesn’t seem to know it yet.

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  21. dapip

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    You are misinterpreting my assertion. As I’ve said before, this election was lost by a thousand cuts, and IMHO racism and misogyny were the deepest, and even if Democrats had somehow won the pro Palestinian vote, it would probably not have been enough to counter all the votes lost from the Biden coalition
     
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  22. TimB4Last

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    Classic headline:

    Trump scrambles to claim credit for Israel’s Iran attack he publicly opposed

    And subhead:

    Discordant US response as President says he was fully aware of plans for what Marco Rubio called a ‘unilateral action’

    Donald Trump is walking a tightrope as he claims that he was fully aware of Israel’s plans to launch massive airstrikes against Iran while continuing to distance the US from those strikes and deny Washington took any active role in the preparations.

    The White House’s messaging has shifted quickly from Marco Rubio’s arms-length description of the Israeli attack as a “unilateral action”, to Trump claiming on Friday morning that he was fully in the loop on the operation and that it came at the end of a 60-day ultimatum he had given Iran to “make a deal” on its nuclear programme.
     
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  23. Pittsburgh Ref

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    Whereas it could be 9-d chess, I rather think he's eating the checkers
     
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  24. diablodelsol

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    Nah….i just think you haven’t been following thus from the beginning, This started with @Auriaprottu responding to a post about Muslims in Dearborn getting their face eaten that they were finding out that it’s a mistake to partner with racists just because you both have sexism in common. I responded that it was actually their broader bigotry that they shared with the racists. I’ve then been challenged multiple times by people, including you….the reason why Muslims didn’t vote for Kamala was because she was a black woman. Which is…well…just stupid. But the conversation was all about Muslim Americans. So if there is a misunderstanding here…it’s you not understanding the conversation. Did Kamala lose the general due to sexism overall? Sure. Did she lose support amongst Muslim voters because they are sexist? No. Dems have been gradually losing the Muslim vote for way longer than Kamala was the nominee. And that has nothing to do with sexism. Or racism. It has to do with their hatred for the LGBTQ community….which really isn’t surprising. Christians in the US wouldn’t vote for Jesus Christ himself were he to return and speak the gospels to them….for the very same reason. Well…and women’s healthcare….but they already won that one.
    with all that said….thats all about general trends of splitting from the Dem party. For this specific election….she didn’t lose them over LGBTQ. She didn’t lose them over sexism, or racism. She lost them because she decided she didn’t want to split with the Biden administration on their stance and approach to Israel and Gaza. It’s not like the hid it. They were clear,
     
  25. Quakes05

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    so predictable this felon draft dodger.
     
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