Oh no…the Leopards ate my face thread

The entire LGBTQ checking into the chat….yeah…sexism is the only area where they’re breaking bread.

edit to add…I’m not positive but I think there are way more Muslim women in Congress that Muslim men…so I’m not sure sexism was anywhere near the deal breaker you’re making out here.

 

I’m sure there is polling out there that would show one way or another. I’m not sure this is the case.

But Muslim Americans have been drifting away from the Dem party for some time. I’d suggest that the cause of that drift has a hell of a lot more to do with the Democratic Party’s acceptance of the LGBTQ community than it had with Dems running more women candidates.

And finally….this conversation in general is a bit reductive and offensive to Muslim Americans as they were pretty damn clear why they were “uncommitted”. And that was Kamala’s failure to break from the Biden administrations policy on Israel. Whether or not that’s due to anti semitism is a debate better had in the Hamas/Israel thread. But they were clear.

We were clear that for however bad you think biden’s policies are…Trump would be way way worse….not only for Palestinians…but for all of you here as well. They didn’t head that warning….hence why I am pleased when they make an appearance here.


And finally….and this is a new thought for me…but the justification I had for Kamala’s failure to distinguish herself from Biden (such that I assumed she would have wanted to) was that you really can’t do that when you are also a member of said administration. In retrospect….had she wanted to take a different approach, on the issue of Palestine and Bibi’s handling of this…or any other matter of importance to the coalition of voters she needed to get elected…she should have resigned as VP the moment she was the nominee. I do wonder if she would not be president right now had she done so.

 

True.

but the elected officials I’m referring to aren’t state wide offices. We’re talking about the demographics of their districts…not their state.

 

Yep. You’re absolutely correct. People who led, championed and gave national voice to the uncommitted movement, like Pramila Jayapal, clandestinely did so because electing a black woman was just too much for them and merely used our enablement of the complete annihilation of Gaza as cover for their real sexist motives.

I stand corrected. Apologies as that didn’t occur to me.

 

Nah….i just think you haven’t been following thus from the beginning, This started with @Auriaprottu responding to a post about Muslims in Dearborn getting their face eaten that they were finding out that it’s a mistake to partner with racists just because you both have sexism in common. I responded that it was actually their broader bigotry that they shared with the racists. I’ve then been challenged multiple times by people, including you….the reason why Muslims didn’t vote for Kamala was because she was a black woman. Which is…well…just stupid. But the conversation was all about Muslim Americans. So if there is a misunderstanding here…it’s you not understanding the conversation. Did Kamala lose the general due to sexism overall? Sure. Did she lose support amongst Muslim voters because they are sexist? No. Dems have been gradually losing the Muslim vote for way longer than Kamala was the nominee. And that has nothing to do with sexism. Or racism. It has to do with their hatred for the LGBTQ community….which really isn’t surprising. Christians in the US wouldn’t vote for Jesus Christ himself were he to return and speak the gospels to them….for the very same reason. Well…and women’s healthcare….but they already won that one.
with all that said….thats all about general trends of splitting from the Dem party. For this specific election….she didn’t lose them over LGBTQ. She didn’t lose them over sexism, or racism. She lost them because she decided she didn’t want to split with the Biden administration on their stance and approach to Israel and Gaza. It’s not like the hid it. They were clear,