Official Pablo (as coach) thread

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by ~F8~, Apr 7, 2014.

  1. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Here is to hoping for that miracle run. I wouldn't mind another star.

    (not that I am in any way expecting anything, just saying that a miracle run would be really fun)

    rod.
     
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  2. Riccardo55

    Riccardo55 Member+

    Mar 11, 2001
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry
    You can flame..........
    Pablo=not the problemo

    Go Rapids

    R
     
  3. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 1999 - Mooch - 1.59375
    2. 2010 - Smith - 1.5333
    3. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.5
    3. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    5. 2011 - Smith - 1.4412
    6. 1998 - Mooch - 1.4375
    7. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.40625
    8. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    9. 2009 - Smith - 1.3333*
    10. 1997 - Mooch - 1.28125
    10. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    12. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.267
    12. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    14. 2000 - Mooch - 1.1875
    15. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    16. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    17. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.043
    18. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 1.03125*
    19. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    20. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.923*

    All-Time Overall:

    1. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    2. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    3. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    3. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    5. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    6. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    7. Mastroeni - 57 Games - 0.98
    8. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00
     
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  4. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Translation of conversation between the commentators:
    "Mastroeni's job isn't in serious danger."
    "In any other league..."
    "Haha"
    "In any other league, yes. In the MLS, no."
     
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  5. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I want a coach who will say these things, but we know there is no way on earth TH would:

    Manager Peter Vermes provided plenty in his postmatch news conference, none of it complimentary to his squad
    “I thought our backline was absolutely horrific,” Vermes said. “It's the reason why we gave up the goals that we did. We were nonchalant.
    "We didn't play together as a group. We weren't good in our individual defending, and we were very, very poor with the ball and our entry balls out of the back – which in turn allowed them to pick us off and at the end, they did a great job of countering us.”
     
  6. AvaiBunton

    AvaiBunton Member

    Oct 24, 2010
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He needs to be gone. I hope we do not have to endure another season of this misery and ugliness.

    I'd like to see an off-season happen with new players brought in, a coach that knows their stuff and a few HGP brought up to compete.
     
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  7. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    #507 jayd8888, Aug 20, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2015
    Replace Paul and let the new Paul fire Pablo on day one.
     
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  8. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Problem is we only have possibly one HGP, Rapids have been losing out for a while to other Youth Programs.
     
  9. AvaiBunton

    AvaiBunton Member

    Oct 24, 2010
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quentin right?
    You mean youth clubs or other MLS clubs youth?
    With the landscape of HgP no reason to not have Denver, COSprings, ABq, FOCO, and Boulder area kiddos on their radar. Could even include Charlottte, Vegas and SD possibly too.
     
  10. murphyskicks

    murphyskicks Member

    May 15, 2009
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    In addition to the fact that he is effectively the worst coach with that 0.98 number in our history, it is that he has done it with a pretty high quality roster in my opinion. It isn't as if the cupboard was/is bare. When he took over, Irwin, Klute, Powers, Brown, O'Neill were one of the best young groups in the league. Wynne was more than serviceable on the back line. Our first DP was on the roster at first and now we have 2 more. Guys like Jose Marie have come and gone. PM has demonstrated that he can't get guys with proven talent into positions to contribute. In fact, he seems to insist on playing them in terrible positions. If PM stays, they really need to wipe the roster clean and start over with who he wants.
     
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  11. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can look but I have yet to see any players from there on any national rankings. The HGP cupboard is bare for Rapids.
     
  12. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Every time I see this list, I feel bad for Roy. He's forever jailed at the bottom based on the one match he coached. I always thought that loss should be pinned on Houghton.
     
  13. AvaiBunton

    AvaiBunton Member

    Oct 24, 2010
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just find that so hard to believe. There are 5 national markets to find these new HGP and Crookman/staff can't. I mean, Las Vegas, ABQ, South Dakota (not major by any means) and North Carolina. I'm sure there are players out there, maybe the Rapids just selected the wrong partner clubs.
     
  14. AvaiBunton

    AvaiBunton Member

    Oct 24, 2010
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    totally agree, but he was the coach. Maybe an asterisk is better...
     
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  15. Virginian

    Virginian Member

    Sep 23, 1999
    Denver, Co
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn't go that far. The national rankings are a bunch of crap in all honesty. Their own coaches are the ones who nominate players to the various websites; coaches nominate their favorite players (not necessarily the best or those with long-term potential) and those they hope to keep with their clubs. If those kids aren't on the list when they start at U14, it is difficult to get on the lists afterward. I think a better gauge of talent would be Youth Nats callups and overall academy play. Rapids has had guys at quite a few YNT camps this year. We'll see how they do in Academy play this season- the U18s have their first scrimmage of the season tonight against a local college team.
     
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  16. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IIRC, Roy was only an interim and was never actually named as coach and sure didn't want the job. The fact that he continued as a Rapids player into mid-1997 is what makes me think he should be spared the dungeon.
     
  17. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #517 COMtnGuy, Aug 26, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2015
    Please post these call-up articles, I don't think I have missed one of them and only a single Rapids youth (Quentin Pearson) has been called up since Serna and O'Neil.

    Not sure where you go for Youth rankings but TopDrawer is a good source and it's rankings come from like 2 or 3 guys who attend all tourney's (boys and Girls). http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/

    Edit: I will not get into the whole USA player development issues but when we can push quality coaching down the ranks (I am talking U-10ish) and end the "Win now" attitude we will see better players come out of the various academies.
     
  18. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was looking for someone more of the "signing Pro age" but I concede your point.
     
  19. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heard a rumor at the game last night that the Rapids have started looking at other coaching options.
     
  20. AvaiBunton

    AvaiBunton Member

    Oct 24, 2010
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh do tell, anything aside from "Rapids are looking at other coaches"?
     
  21. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Same recognition to action timeline as the start of season w/o any viable forwards ...
     
  22. AvaiBunton

    AvaiBunton Member

    Oct 24, 2010
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So from the U16, there is 1 rapids player and 2 from our academy markets.
    U14, 2 rapids and 1 academy market.

    A total of 3 players from what we could include in HGP market. Sad days ahead for the youth movement within the Rapids.
    It looks as if MLS still runs CUSA Academy too, is that going to be taken over by LAFC?
     
  23. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, that was about the extent of it.
     
  24. DavidJames

    DavidJames Member+

    May 11, 2003
    Longmont
    Maybe they meant they could see other coaches from their box?
     
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