On topic, with last night's New England-Colorado result it would be to the Crew's benefit to take all three points and begin putting distance between themselves and the bottom spot. Oddly enough, a Crew win and a DC loss, I think, would vault the Crew to second place with DC and MetroStars each having a game in hand.
I still can't believe how tight the race is in the East. I said it last year and I'll say it again this year; the best part about the playoff race isn't who's going to make it, but who isn't. You've got to really suck not to make the post season in this league. As it stands, there's still four teams in the East that could be left out. No one is in the clear except Chicago. That's amazing. I'll be stocking up on Amstel and Mylanta this weekend. I also started lifting weights again to help deal with the stress. Drinking heavily and having lots of sex just doesn't seem to cut it anymore. On a positive note I've stopped cracking my knuckles.
Look, a bunch of the folks in that picture are pretty much responsible for the fact that racist skins have not and cannot weasel into not only section 101, but a lot of places that are basically institutions in the NY scene that anyone who is into the punk rock/hardcore scene anywhere would have heard of, like ABC No Rio. I can understand that some Crew fans figure this is an easy target-- it's a picture with lots of hard-man bravado. But the message they're trying to send isn't for supporters of other MLS clubs. It's for people who want to find a foothold in, say, the Metrostars, or in other parts of the NY and NJ scenes, to spread a message of race hate. It's out of context here, and it doesn't make any sense to act like these folks are trying to front as hooligans. They're not. If you give a *#*#*#*# about the politics of a huge punk rock scene, or in keeping racist recruitment out of MLS supporters clubs, the folks in that picture are the good guys, and they're the ones who put it on the line. There are lots of Nazis and racist skinheads in this area, but they don't show their faces because they will get an immediate beat-down from the guys in that picture. So really, if you're like Bill and you're looking for a rich mother lode of smack to talk, you just exposing your ignorance. Just how misguided are you to claim that these guys were racists, and how embarrassing to get caught quickly editing your foolishness? I can understand that you just don't know enough to be able to make distinctions in this case, and maybe this all seems really trivial and juvenile to you. I think it's bizarre, too, that white supremacist ideologues could really be a threat, at MLS games and elsewhere, but guess what? They are. And it would be a nightmare if some faction of insignificant, bigoted losers tried to take over the ESC or another supporters club. But that's what they aimed to do, a few years ago, and I'm glad it didn't happen. So really, leave this one alone. As for Eggy, like I said, these guys aren't trying to intimidate other teams' fans, but active and real white supremacists in New York and New Jersey. They've done a pretty good job of keeping them out. As for the black boxes: yeah it's clearly partly to look hard, and you might think it looks like stupid posturing, but there are a couple good reasons to do this. One is that there are people in that picture with serious jobs. One guy in that is labor attorney with a fairly well-known firm. I guess keeping a low profile is important to him. Another reason-- a more important one-- is that some of the active anti-racists folks get followed by racists goons who recognize them in the East Village or elsewhere, and end up in a five-on-one beating. So I can appreciate the desire to not be recognized. Again, it's not intended for DC fans, or Crew fans, or whoever. So my advice is to drop this one. Don't got nothing to do with you.
Bravo!! In the future, whenever I need someone to come shovel manure, you're gonna be on my speed dial. Now it's extremely noble of Mohandas, Martin and Co. to be out doing the Lords' work battling the dark forces of bigotry in the soccer wastelands of New Jersey and all. Don't get me wrong. And I'm equally certain that the skinhead hordes and neo-Nazis (probably in conjunction with the forces of International Freemasonry) spend every waking moment plotting ways of taking over freakin soccer stadiums as the logical first step in seizing control of Amerikkka. But before we rush off to Stockholm with that long-overdue Nobel Nomination, let's make brief stopover in the Merry Old Land of Reality, and check out thier website, to wit: The Red & Black Brigade is the anti-capitalist supporters section of the MetroStars. Anarchists, Communists and Socialists of all stipes are invited to join us inside section 101 during MetroStars games. We are non-sectarian, so don't use the Red & Black to recruit, but to show the world that workers and oppressed people of the NY/NJ can unite to promote soccer & socialism! Now I know good and well that they don't really mean any of this; that this is merely a cover for their REAL purpose, which is promoting love, peace and understanding by patrolling Giants' Stadium with baseball bats at the ready, pouncing on anyone who makes racist comments about Dema Kovalenko or John Spencer. And thenk God for them. Euro football is ful of this sort of nonsense. Tell them to go to St Pauli with this rubbish. Unlike most of the other groups on BigSoccer, the Crew Forum is not a bunch of gee-whiz-gullible prepubescent Landon Donovan and Freddy Adu fans. Around here, we know European Football, we know how hooligan/thug groups work and recognize wannabes when we see them. Eggy was dead on; he knows, obviously a LOT better than you do, what is going on here. YOU are the one who is clueless, Mango, not us. As for the "well respected solid-citizen-pillar-of-society" types you claim this group of Trotskyite imbeciles is rife with, tell them to grow the hell up. As for your contention about me having originally typed "racist" instead of "facist", (the letters adjoin on your keyboard - have a look) then proofing the post and deciding to just do away with the reference altogether, the only thing "embarassing" about it is you using it as the mainstay of your "point" (such as it is) despite the fact that it isn't even there. If that's the best you've got, you've obvioulsy got nothing. Peddle this nonsense elsewhere, pal. Nobody in these parts was born yesterday.
Bill, you really do spent a lot of time admiring yourself, your stellar intellect, and your brilliant writing. But not for the last time, you really don't know what you're talking about. Buh bye.
What really needs to happen now that this group has kept the racists out, is a group that keeps racists, socialists, communists, anarchists, and soccer moms(Don't think I don't know about this group and how they "influenced" the '96 election) out. I'll volunteer, I have a hard time dealing with people that don't realize the basic set up of life; Your born an individual, you die an individual, and God judges you as an individual. Nobody goes out and says I hope I make a lot of money today for Society(though that's what we do every damn day with that damn income tax) or I bet Society would like that plasma TV. As my interpretation of Thomas Hobbes goes, people are greedy SOBs searching for what is good for them and the damn prediciment of man is that there are other men on earth to F'it up. Hence we have rules and governments to protect your sh!t from those greedy bastards that would take it away from you if they had half a chance.
Where do you get stuff, then, like food and clothes? What about transportation - is it public-only for them? In anti-capitalist circles are there "lists" of accepted places from which to obtain goods and services? In an odd twist, I'm not being a dick here; I'm genuinely curious.
These boards frequently play host to people whose judgement I admire. When they question an opinion of mine or a statement of fact I have made it causes me to re-examine my position. They also play host to numerous poseurs whose childish prattle I dismiss out of hand. I'll leave it to you to guess which group you are a charter member of. ta-ta
I have a few anti-capatalist friends (waiting for kaiser to insert lame liberal joke here). Some of them operate in collectives, a lot shoplift, and some go dumpstering on a regular basis. They get by, its incredible the amount of good food that gets thrown out. The stuff they get from Trader Joe's is real impressive. I don't get it. It's not a lifestyle for me at all. I don't think it makes that much of a difference at all to live that way. I give them credit to sticking to their beleifs in such a way, they make it work. But, i really don't see the point.
I know one, who is extremely attractive and used to date my roomate. She's a good girl, and quite attractive. But yes, she does have hairy armpits.
Haig, I couldn't give a *#*#*#*#*# if Hitler himself was in the stands. I used to know alot of those ARA type people in Columbus. I watched two girls beat up a 15 year old girl cause she said she was Pro-American. I've seen them threaten other people over polotics. But the rest of the punker-skin types know almost nothing about the sport. Kansas City has the same group of people. Wearing their own brand-namned "Hooligan" clothing. Want to keep racism out of football? Go to Millwall. There is quite a few racist supporters there that would love to see you try to keep them out of the stadium.
Come'on. How hard is it to get your hands on disposable Bic? Back on topic. The Crew walk away with atleast a point. I don't see us losing. But by no means is this going to be a thrashing by either team. Things are just too tight for anyone to give up that much space out there. If the ref actually calls the game fairly, i.e. calls on their backline, then we going away 2-1 with goals from Buddle and Paule. If not, then it's 1-1. We really need this win. I think anything less, and doubt starts to creep in. This team can't afford that. Their swagger must carry them through the post season.
Sorry hang, no lame liberal joke this time around. Besides, you're a moderate, not a liberal. I do agree that we live in an extremely wasteful society, and it really is no surprise the kind of goodies you might find if you are fine with dumpster diving. I'm almost inspired to check out Trader Joe's after hours. I never thought of the potential, but I have the feeling I would have trouble getting my ass back out of the dumpster (seeing as I have no vertical). So if a person is anti-capitalistic, do they hold jobs? I mean, you gotta have rent money or just be a squatter, right? I suppose you can still pay for some items with sexual favors (ala Requiem for a Dream) As for shoplifting, yeah, I've done it myself when I was younger. But when you think about it, you're really hurting others. If its a small shop, its obvious that you're hurting the individual I/Os. Big stores you hurt fellow consumers, as they'll raise the prices to compensate. I'm not saying that these people should agree with the way society works. However, if you're all about changing the way people think about that system, you have to appeal to their reasoning. Tough to do if you live extemely differently. As for topic related: I think this game has a lot of potential to swing things around. If DC should lose and we win, then that increases the impact of the NY/DC doubleheader coming up.
That was my next question, kaiser kraut. Do anti-capitalists hold paying jobs? If not, how do they afford a place to live? Man, I'm so intrigued. I have to find a book on this or something. Don't get me wrong, it's not like I never knew people like this existed it's just I've never given them much thought. As for the match, I think I'd settle for a draw depending upon how the match shook out. A late-match collapse wouldn't leave a nice taste. I think Columbus can win this match as they've proven they can win in Giants Stadium. Hopefully it's the more offensively-aggressive Crew that show up rather than the get-a-one-goal-lead-and-hold-on-80-minutes team.
Gotta disagree. Seems like we're on a wave of confidence and aggressive play. I'm seriously looking for a win. A BIG win. We owe these guys and I think tomorrow is delivery day. Crew 4 - 1 Scum.
From what i understand who I know lives out of a bookstore they operate. People turn in donations if they please but are free to just take the books also. It's more or less a month to month thing. Their landlord is a guy who understands what they are doing and is lenient because he appreciates the stores ciontribution to the community. FF, check out this book... like i said, not for me...but an interesting read. As for the game I am with Bill. Big win. I'll take any win. But I believe we win big tomorrow.
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism I was being kinda flippant. You might be able to find (or start) some interesting, serious discussion on this over in Politics. As for the game, I think a win is the desired result. A die would be mildly disappointing, but a loss would be crushing. We don't have much margin for error.
Save your time and money. Just know they're worthless trash that are too stupid even to get a job at McDonald's. Foos, I don't know, death would be a little bit more then mildly disappointing.
Couldn't agree more; momentum is a serious factor and we're building some good stuff here. Plus, if Williams is ready to play, we match up better in the back line on setplays and crosses. We can play teams with big, physical back lines now that Williams and Buddle are in the mix. No more Crew looking like road kill in the box. We could now have speed AND POWER.