Official Ireland V Switzerland Pre-Match Thread [R]

Discussion in 'Ireland' started by Father Ted, Oct 3, 2002.

  1. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Current Standings in Group 10:
    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/soccer...up=UEFA.EUROQ&stageId=UEFA.EUROQ.GROUP10.2004

    Upcoming Games:
    Oct 12 2002 Albania v Switzerland
    Oct 12 2002 Georgia v Russia
    Oct 16 2002 Ireland v Switzerland
    Oct 16 2002 Russia v Albania
    Mar 29 2003 Georgia v Ireland
    Mar 29 2003 Albania v Russia
    Apr 02 2003 Albania v Ireland
    Apr 02 2003 Georgia v Switzerland
    Jun 07 2003 Switzerland v Russia
    Jun 07 2003 Ireland v Albania
    Jun 11 2003 Ireland v Georgia
    Jun 11 2003 Switzerland v Albania
    Sep 06 2003 Ireland v Russia
    Sep 06 2003 Georgia v Albania
    Sep 10 2003 Russia v Switzerland
    Sep 10 2003 Albania v Georgia
    Oct 11 2003 Russia v Georgia
    Oct 11 2003 Switzerland v Ireland
     
  2. Nigel_Sausagepump

    Nigel_Sausagepump New Member

    Jul 22, 2002
    UK
    OK, to get the ball rolling.......

    My predictions.

    Starting line up

    Given
    Kelly
    Cunningham
    Breen
    Hopalong
    Trigger
    Holland
    Kinsella
    Kilbane
    Keane
    Duff

    The game
    Goal for the Swiss in the first half caused by a defensive howler (haven't decided who commits it yet). They sit back for the rest of the match, but have some dangerous moments on the counter-attack. Late goal for Ireland rescues a point.

    1-1

    Outrageous, isn't it?
     
  3. frankk

    frankk New Member

    Aug 29, 2002
    Dublin/Donegal
    My predictions.

    Starting line up

    Given
    Kelly
    Cunningham
    Breen
    Harte
    Reid
    Holland
    Kinsella
    Kilbane
    Keane
    Duff

    The game
    McAteer is struggling with a stomach injury so Reid's return to fitness comes at a great time. We know very little about the swiss but i expect them to defend at fortress lansdowne with the odd counter-attack thrown in.

    Looking at the team does not inspire confidence and i'm getting fed up of saying 'he's due a big game'. having said that i think our superior fitness level will grind out a win. it certainly won't be a route but i expect us to win.

    going back to the basle 'keeper who played a stormer against liverpool - he's not first choice for his country so that's something. anyway valencia restored normal service by whipping them good. couldn't have happened at a better time!
     
  4. Slash/ED

    Slash/ED New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Dublin
    The line up will be

    Given
    Kelly
    Harte
    Breen
    Cunningham
    McAteer if fit, then Reid if fit, then Delap,
    Kilbane,
    Holland,
    Kinsella,
    Duff,
    Keane.

    What everyones said really, and that is a poor line up.
     
  5. pmannion

    pmannion Member
    Staff Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    Newfoundland
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Ireland 2-1 Switzerland

    Keane and Duff with the goals for Ireland.
     
  6. swissman

    swissman Member

    Sep 9, 2002
    Boston
    Eagerly awaiting the match.... going to an Irish pub and watching the game.... will get beaten up when the Swiss win 2-1 thanks to Yakin and Frei.
     
  7. Slash/ED

    Slash/ED New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Dublin
    Care to give us any information on your expected starting line up and the players that should be in the squad? I'd be very interested to know, otherwise, good luck, espically in the Irish pub...
     
  8. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    The starting line up will be pretty similar to the last game against Georgia (why change a winning formula?)

    Goal
    - Stiel (Gladbach - Note: not Zuberbuhler)

    Defense
    - Haas (Basel, Ex-Sunderland)
    - Henchoz (Liverpool)
    - M. Yakin (Basel)
    - Magnin (Werder Bremen)

    Midfield
    - Cabanas (Grasshoppers)
    - Vogel (PSV Eindhoven - Dutch player of the year in 2000)
    - Müller (Lyon)
    - H.Yakin (Basel)

    Forwards
    - Frei (Servette Geneva)
    - Chapuisat (Young Boys Bern - used to be the #1 foreign goal scorer in the Bundesliga ever until Elber passed him recently)


    Subs
    - Berner (Freiburg)
    - Wicky (Hamburg)
    - Celestini (Olympique Marseilles)


    It's gonna look something like that...
     
  9. Leto

    Leto New Member

    Aug 23, 2001
    Donegal,Ireland
    Has Henchoz come out of retirement?
     
  10. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Yes he has. He never actually retired, just had differences with our coach Jakob Kuhn. They've worked things out since then...
     
  11. yorkshirepud

    yorkshirepud New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Dublin
    Team:

    Given
    Kelly
    Cunningham
    Breen
    Harte
    Mcateer
    Holland
    Kinsella
    Duff
    Keane
    Morrison

    Result 1:1
     
  12. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Official Swiss Roster

    Today was the official announcement of the roster.

    Age/Team/Caps/Goals

    Goal
    Jörg Stiel (34/Borussia Mönchengladbach/7)
    Pascal Zuberbühler (31/Basel/14)
    Fabrice Borer (30/Grasshoppers/3)

    Defense
    Bruno Berner (24/Freiburg/4/0)
    Bernt Haas (24/Basel/16/1)
    Stéphane Henchoz (28/Liverpool/55/0)
    Stephan Keller (23/FC Zürich/1/0)
    Ludovic Magnin (23/Werder Bremen/7/1)
    Remo Meyer (22/1860 München/1/0)
    Murat Yakin (28/Basel/31/3)

    Midfield and Forwards
    Ricardo Cabanas (23/Grasshoppers/6/1)
    Mario Cantaluppi (28/Basel/16/2)
    Fabio Celestini (27/Olympique de Marseille/14/0)
    Stéphane Chapuisat (33/Young Boys/86/21)
    Alex Frei (23/Servette/12/7)
    Patrick Müller (26/Olympique Lyonnais/32/2)
    Léonard Thurre (24/Servette/3/0)
    Johann Vogel (25/Eindhoven/51/2)
    Raphaël Wicky (25/Hamburger SV/39/0)
    Hakan Yakin (25/Basel/19/9)


    The starting line up will most likely be very similar to my prediction above...
     
  13. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Sounds good to me...
     
  14. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Uh-oh! Five - count them F I V E - Basel players in this squad.
     
  15. Leto

    Leto New Member

    Aug 23, 2001
    Donegal,Ireland
    How is it that your goalkeepers are all so old (34,31,30), but relatively inexperienced internationally (7,14,3)? Has your main keeper recently retired or something?
     
  16. Leto

    Leto New Member

    Aug 23, 2001
    Donegal,Ireland
    Thank you by the way - very thorough info :)
     
  17. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Squad named by McCarthy:

    Republic of Ireland:

    Goalkeepers: Shay Given (Newcastle United), Dean Kiely (Charlton Athletic), Nick Colgan (Hibernian)

    Defenders: Ian Harte (Leeds United), Gary Breen (West Ham United), Gary Kelly (Leeds United), Jeff Kenna (Birmingham City), Kenny Cunningham (Birmingham City), John O'Shea (Manchester United), Andy O'Brien (Newcastle United), Phil Babb (Sunderland)

    Midfielders: Matt Holland (Ipswich Town), Colin Healy (Celtic), Mark Kinsella (Aston Villa), Lee Carsley (Everton), Delap (Southampton), Stephen McPhail (Leeds United)

    Forwards: Robbie Keane (Tottenham Hotspur), Clinton Morrison (Birmingham City), Kevin Kilbane (Sunderland), Damian Duff (Blackburn Rovers), Gary Doherty (Tottenham Hotspur).



    Kenna in for Finnan who is injured. McAteer and Reid are out too so we may see McPhail and/or Healy starting.
     
  18. frankk

    frankk New Member

    Aug 29, 2002
    Dublin/Donegal
    if mcateer and reid are out i would imagine kelly would push forward into the vacant right midfield slot. can't see mick putting on either mcphail or healy in what is a must-win game (first half anyway). o'shea has played right back for united so he might start there, i'm not 100% confident in kenna
     
  19. Nigel_Sausagepump

    Nigel_Sausagepump New Member

    Jul 22, 2002
    UK
    Yeah,
    Mick said in the press conference that O'Shea is in as cover for the centre halves.
    That means the team will prob now be:

    Given
    Kenna
    Cunningham
    Breen
    Harte
    Kelly
    Holland
    Kinsella
    Kilbane
    Keane
    Duff

    Any more takers for a draw?!
     
  20. Slash/ED

    Slash/ED New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Dublin
    Bloody hell that's frustraiting, a draw looks a likely result if Mick keeps this rubbish up. I'd rather see Kelly right mid then right back, and Kenna deserves his chance, so at least lets hope we see that. Annoying Reid is out, this could have been his time to cement his place, he's a class act.
     
  21. Pat Mustard

    Pat Mustard New Member

    Aug 12, 2002
    Ireland
    He could of course go for Duff on the right side of midfield with Kelly or Kenna right back and Morrisson up front. Duff has played very well there before for McCarthy, most notably in the second half against Spain.
     
  22. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    But this is Mick McCarthy, who seems intent on defying all logic by persisting to stick Duff up front with Keane.
     
  23. Leto

    Leto New Member

    Aug 23, 2001
    Donegal,Ireland
    Although after Morrison came through in Moscow in his first competitive game, and after his fine form in the league, Mick might decide to play an actual striker alongside Robbie. Hopefully. That would mean either Kilbane on the left and Duff on the right, or Duff on the left and one from Kelly/Healy/Delap on the right.....probably Kelly if he was going to put a winger on the other side. It's not that far-fetched.
     
  24. Nigel_Sausagepump

    Nigel_Sausagepump New Member

    Jul 22, 2002
    UK
    Update from nit-pickers-are-us...

    Morrison actually made his competitive debut in the second half of the second leg of the Iran game.

    Yes, I know, anal in the extreme.
     
  25. Slash/ED

    Slash/ED New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Dublin
    That really is nit picking....

    :)
     

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