Official Gregg Berhalter Coaching Thread

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  1. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    We've been repeatedly told that Gregg has plenty of time to switch back to a "bunker" strategy (defined as anything that's not his regista-based one).
     
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  2. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Klinsmann also tried to have us playing tiki-taka when he just arrived, but after losing enough games, he discovered what all politicians know: it's not what you do, but what you say.

    So we reverted to defensive tactics and started winning, while he talked about being proactive, controlling the midfield, coming out from the back playing, and pressuring the rival.
     
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  3. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Mourinho obvs
     
  4. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Kudos to Gregg and Stewart for getting Dest.
     
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  5. mace

    mace Member+

    Indy 11
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    you mean Tab and Richie Williams but anyway.
     
  7. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Richie Williams?!?

    Do you mean, kudos that Dest never had any contact with Williams and thus was predisposed to have a positive outlook on the USA? Because Dest never was coached by Williams that I know of and nobody has driven more players away, or tried to ruin careers, than Richie.
     
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  8. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Yeah sure, Tab did 90% of the work getting Dest to the finish line. However, Dest might still have chosen differently post u20 and it's ok to say that Berhalter and Stewart did the right thing in going to meet him personally. I'm also sure that Stewart being a well known figure in Dutch soccer management made things a lot easier.
     
  9. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Gregg gets credit for calling Dest and playing him in September. That was probably the most important thing after Ramos playing him in May. Remember, if Sarachan had simply called Gonzales for the November friendly, he would probably have stayed with the USA.

    Meetings, texts, communicating are important. But actually calling the players and playing them is also very important.
     
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  10. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    This is true. If the Oranje had tapped Dest before a call up it wouldn't have looked nearly as good.
     
  11. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    When is Berhalter going to be fired???
     
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  12. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When this happens.....;)

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  13. Centennial

    Centennial Member+

    Apr 4, 2003
    Centennial
    You just presented us with sufficient evidence. FIRE HIM NOW!!!!
     
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  14. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Fire him at the end of the month and get a replacement by Spring. I prefer someone South American.
     
  15. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a tough camp to select for, in fairness. We have so many players missing or very limited who I view as key in key areas. I'm talking about the likes of Pulisic, Adams, Steffen, Weah, Pomykal, Altidore, etc. All these players would be in and around my best xi right now and the established or maybe available replacements for them are nothing to write home about.

    That said, this is where it's important to build depth, which is taken for granted by a sect of the fan base who is elitist and unrealistic that near our best xi will usually be available, w/ proper experimentation. Bring in new players, give them a few caps to show their worth, if they do cycle in, if not cycle out temporarily. And we really haven't done that since the end of Bradley's tenure, so 8+ years. Not that the pool wouldn't present some problem of its own.

    I guess you could say it was done for a limited period under a manager who was not befitting of the position in Sarachan. But then it wasn't near maximized, and ultimately under Gregg we started at square one w/ the group in Jan. camp. So much of the work that Sarachan did was just scrapped. You could say the same about Tab's in winning u20 CCAFships and making mini runs in WC's press-countering.

    Instead we're committing to a new direction which may well be DOA and if we hang on too long could mean a second straight WC miss. Which would be catastrophic for apathy toward the sport in this country.
     
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  16. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    in case you were worried berhalter wouldnt be fired for any reason, regardless of results (via jeff carlisle on twitter)

    "On a conference call with reporters, USSF sporting director Earnie Stewart says manager Gregg Berhalter's job is safe, no matter what the results are against Canada and Cuba in the Concacaf Nations League."
     
  17. Eldinter

    Eldinter Member

    Jul 28, 2009
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When we have had friendlies in November in the past, they were often used for giving guys in Europe more of a look because of conflicts with MLS playoffs. The switch to single-game elimination means all MLS players are available, but I wish Berhalter would have focused on European-based players more because many MLS guys on the roster haven't had a game in a month. That's why I find the decision not to call Miazga and Holmes so perplexing. Even if Berhalter rates an MLS player above those guys, Miazga and Holmes are surely in better form than players that have been out of season for a month. Instead, Greg saw it is an opportunity to organize the equivalent of a January camp for his favorite MLS players like Trapp and Lovitz to spend more time teaching them "the System." It won't happen, but he shoudl be fired if we don't win on Friday.
     
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  18. Guinho

    Guinho Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes, bless their hearts
    Estonia
    May 27, 2001
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Also Earnie is "a pleased man." Jesus. How can you play so much soccer and be around the sport for so many years and still be so utterly clueless about the sport that you look are very pleased by the state of the team. Yikes

    https://www.espn.com/soccer/united-...usmnt-has-made-progress-under-gregg-berhalter
     
  19. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1519 TOAzer, Nov 12, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2019
    "In a conference via telegram with reporters, WhiteStar corporate director Sir Earnest Stewart says ship commander General Egg's job is safe, no matter what the results against the icebergs in the Cross Atlantic Maiden Voyage"

    Of course.
     
  20. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course he's pleased. Every Monday he awakes to the fresh and happy sound of Cha-Ching! from his bank account. It's not just a pleasure for Mikey, y'know.
     
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  21. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    This article should really be titled: Berhalters assures Stewart that Berhalters job is safe
     
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  22. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    I have never been so dispirited about the national team. Even if we beat Cuba and Canada, that means nothing. I have no hope whatsoever as long as GB is in charge.
     
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  23. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1523 Jazzy Altidore, Nov 12, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2019
    I'm most concerned by how out of touch these comments are with the general sense of the fan base and even the media (to a lesser degree). He could have defended Gregg and explained why firing him isn't going to happen in the near future, but saying he is "pleased" with the current results is very out of touch. It suggests some deep-entrenched groupthink going on in Earnie's head and with USSF.
     
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  24. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    The highlight Earnie gives is the first 25 minutes of the Gold Cup final. This is particularly nuts, since Gregg viewed those minutes as a disaster. He forbade them from playing long balls after that. When they did it anyway, he made them all embarrass themselves and the fans against Mexico in September.

    We can see why Earnie doesn't talk much.
     
  25. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This federation is Kafka-esque. In what universe is this considered competent administration? :mad:
     
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