Official Every MLS Match Except DCU vs Burn PRE Match / Playoff Race Thread

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Knave, Sep 15, 2002.

  1. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I thought this thread would be a good idea.

    And I had a question ...

    What has to happen for the MetroStars not to make the playoffs?

    Watch out for the flaming trolls
     
  2. Cweedchop

    Cweedchop Member+

    Mar 6, 2000
    Ellicott City, Md
    A United win, a Revs win and a Chicago loss...


    Anything less than this scenario seals their fate..
     
  3. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Code:
    [size=4]Team            W   L   T   Pts  GF   GA  @
    --------------------------------------------  
    Los Angeles    15   9   3   48   43   33  SJ
    San Jose       14  10   3   45   45   34  LA 
    Colorado       13  11   3   42   42   47  KC
    Dallas         11   9   7   40   40   40  DC  
    Columbus       11  11   5   38   43   41  CH  
    New England    11  14   2   35   46   49  NJ
    MetroStars     11  14   2   35   41   44  NE 
    Kansas City     9  10   8   35   36   44  CO 
    -------------------------------------------- 
    Chicago        10  13   4   34   41   37  CB
    [color=red]D.C. United     9  13   5   32   28   36  DA[/color][/size]

    Is that right?

    If so I don't understand the Chicago loss. Obviously the Metros must lose and remain at 35 points so why isn't it detrimental to them if Chicago wins and goes up to 37 points?
     
  4. Bambule GK

    Bambule GK New Member

    Aug 16, 2000
    The ATL
    There are 2 excellent threads tracking the background for the final weekend:

    Halamadrid's Standings table:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=13876

    and El Jefe's Playoff situation:
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=13695

    NY @ NE
    C'bus @ CHI
    KC @ COL
    DAL @ DC


    I don't have all the tie-breaks. If someone has them (they are listed in Hala's thread), that would be helpful.

    Intriguing to me is the motivation of each our potential knock-out teams' opponent.
    • Clearly, NE will go all out against NY... There's no scenario that has them clinching without at least a draw, and no one likes to play for that (US vs. Costa Rica anyone?)
    • Columbus. Hmmm. Heated rivalry. They playing for #2 seed, which is pretty important. Chicago hasn't been that great at home... But this is for all the bat guano.
    • Colorado. Tough call. These guys are pretty much set. The only thing they need to ensure is first round homefield, which they can do with a tie (given some scenarios). I dunno. They ARE at home, which is definitely a bonus -- hopefully they don't mail this one in...
    • Dallas. See, I think this is where we have it good. This is a team still reeling from a period that saw them play 4 games in 10 days (or something like that). They are basically playing for the #4 seed... yawn. To me, this is a team trying not to get hurt and play themselves back into form for the playoff run.
     
  5. morenolsen

    morenolsen New Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    I don't think that El Jefe knows head to head is the first tiebreaker.
     
  6. Jeff

    Jeff Member

    Apr 14, 1999
    Alexandria, NOVA
    Any KC points, a NE win, and any Chicago points is a scenario knocking the Metros out.

    Rapids/Wizards effect on DC's playoff chances: unique. Colorado and Dallas will meet in the first round, the only question is where. A DCU win Thursday clinches fourth for the Rapids. My personal opinion is that even in this scenario, the Rapids will not mail it in on Friday (last reg. season home match, pride, KC a bit of a rival). However, a friendly, respectful warning to you all: They are the most schtizophrenic team in MLS. Until Sat. there was a two month or so pattern of excellent match followed by atrocious match. Two good ones in a row, I hope for a third. Other than one time vs. LA, the Raps have been fairly solid at home all season.

    That being said, Vamos United on Thursday for many reasons.
     
  7. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, I do.

    I even know that goal differential is the second tiebreaker, and that total goals scored is the third.
     
  8. Bambule GK

    Bambule GK New Member

    Aug 16, 2000
    The ATL
    D,

    I was wondering if you'd see that post. :D

    Seriously, for what it's worth, any scuttle-bootay on how the Burn are taking this game? I just don't see the motivation for them to come up here go and balls-out.


    Then again, a loose team versus a team playing for everything... tough call.
     
  9. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they don't win, they don't get home-field advantage in the first round.

    There's their motivation.
     
  10. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia
    Taking a step back, kudos to the MLS poo-bahs for having various home-and-home series at the end of the season.
     
  11. entropy

    entropy Member

    Aug 31, 2000
    People's Republic of Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
  12. Bambule GK

    Bambule GK New Member

    Aug 16, 2000
    The ATL
    Hmmm... Good motivation then. Thanks... My head was spinning trying to look at all the permutations, but it's pretty simple in the end.
     
  13. Bambule GK

    Bambule GK New Member

    Aug 16, 2000
    The ATL
    Re: Updated Playoff Scenarios from dcunited.com

    Ya know what, that's actually VERY helpful. I couldn't, for the life of me, figure out how we advanced in a 3-way tie with KC-NY-DC... Apparently it's the best points-per-game average among those tied... which means we beat both KC and NY.

    Clears that up... I was putting my faith in El Jefe, which is a precarious mental position upon which to rest.

    :D
     
  14. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia
    Just to boost this back to the top, Richard Mulrooney's ankle break deals a huge blow to the e-Quakes 1) winning the supporter's shield and 2) winning MLS Cup. Couldn't have come at a worse time. I figure that when we played them in SJ, Yallop's moving Mulrooney out of d-mid to right back allowed us to have as much dominance in midfield as we did thus allowing us to get what looks like a possibly huge one point tie; a point that still no other team has been able to get in Spartan. The door is open for LA, though, of course, they will fold somewhere in the playoffs as per usual.
     
  15. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I just saw that MLS changed the card carry over rules. Here are the old regulations.

    http://www.mlsnet.com/about/regulations/

    Here are the new ones.
    http://www.mlsnet.com/content/02/weekly0917.html

    I'm not sure if I like this change. Perhaps it will open things up for players in the last match of the season so they don't hold back for fear of missing a playoff game but, of course, that's not always a good thing.
     
  16. John_Harkes_6

    John_Harkes_6 New Member

    Mar 29, 2000
    Baltimore, MD.
    Good news (for DcU) - An MRI taken yesterday confirmed a subluxation (partial dislocation) to Fire forward Ante Razov's right shoulder. Razov is listed as day-to-day.
     

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