Official Copa Libertadores de America 2011 Thread [R]

We are going, America became yesterday the first Mexican club to qualify for next years edition.

 

I think San Luis and Morelia are going too.

 

America is officially in.

As of today, San Luis and Jaguares are in, that can change if they stumble. Tigres, Pachuca, and Pumas still have a shot.

 

I apologize for the question....

How do the teams qualify now? And what teams are ineligible?

 

the top three teams in the apertura minus the teams playing in concacaf qualify to Libertadores, the 4 teams that cannot play libertadores are of course Cruz Azul, Monterrey, Santos and Toluca.

1. Cruz Azul
2. Monterrey
3. Santos
4. America
5. San Luis
6. Chiapas

 

The draw is Thursday November 25, 2010

 

well you say that but they struggled against MLS teams playing in concacaf.

 

Yeah but take into consideration they play lazy and with many subs in concacaf champions league. The hunger to win is not the same in ccl, in libertadores you want to kick some south american ass that can actually be competitive. At least the crappy refs in concacaf are better than the shitty cheating suraca refs

 

Primera Fase:
Llave 1: Brasil 5 vs. Colombia 3
Llave 2: Jaguares de México vs. Perú 3 (Universitario o Alianza Lima)
Llave 3: Paraguay 3 vs. Dep. Petare (Venezuela)
Llave 4: Chile 3 vs. Bolivia 3
Llave 5: Argentina 5 vs. Ecuador 3
Llave 6: Brasil 6 vs. Liverpool (Uruguay)






http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/i...ales-de-los-mexicanos-en-la-libertadores-2011

 

I wonder who the Brasil 3 will be in America's group? wait isn't that Cruzeiro?

 

If the Wilas play like in the liguilla they might hold 2nd place of their group of death.

 

Group 3 and group 8 are for sure the groups of death

 

The groups are almost set:

Grupo 1
Universidad San Martin (PER)
Libertad (PAR)
Once Caldas (COL)
San Luis (MEX)

Grupo 3
Argentinos Juniors (ARG)
Nacional (URU)
Fluminense (BRA)
America (MEX)

Grupo 6
Internacional (BRA)
Jorge Wilstermann (BOL)
Emelec (ECU)
Jaguares (MEX) o Alianza Lima (PER)

Jaguares have to win their series against Alianza to qualify to the group stage.

 

Only three Mexican teams this year? Is it true that MLS teams are going to Libertadores this year?

 

No, they are not.....where did you hear that?

 

u reading too many spazzo threads? where the fk you get that from??

We always have 3 teams, before that we only had 2, last year was the only year we had 5, and it was bcuz of some dumbshit...

 

FMF Rules

Anybody know the answer to this one?

The top three FMF Apertura teams qualify for the Libertadores, besides the four clubs that are already competing in the CONCACAF Champions League. But since the Champions League starts in the Fall, it's possible that a Mexican club could be in the Champions League, but get eliminated before the end of the Apertura. If that happens, and they end up in the top 3, do they get to do Libertadores? Or since they WERE in the Champions League, does their slot automatically go to the next team down (even though they're out)?

I checked out the history of the CONCACAF tournament, and no Mexican team has ever been knocked out in the preliminaries or the group stage, so this has never been an issue. But does anyone know what WOULD happen?

(Please don't post a definitive answer unless you know what you're talking about.)

 

Are you sure? If so - how do you know?

Consider this fictitious (but possible) example...

DEC 2010
Santos Laguna is runner-up for Aperutra 2010 - automatic bid in Champions League 2011

OCT 2011
Santos gets knocked out of CCL '11 in the group stage

DEC 2011
Santos finishes third in Apertura 2011 - automatic bid to Libertadores 2012

So you're saying they don't get to go? Even though their Spring schedule is clear, since they're not in CCL anymore?

 

Dude... listen to Nopal...

 

Dude ... I'm happy to listen to Nopal.

Most people don't realize how complicated the selection/qualification process is for many of these tournaments. Probably, Nopal does. There are just too many idiots on these sites spewing random guesses as if they were facts. Probably not Nopal. I just want to understand why he thinks (knows) what he says.

To prove my point, here's some interesting trivia for you:

How does the FMF decide which teams will play in the SuperLiga each year?
(it's not as simple as you might think)

And for bonus points:

Who cares about the SuperLiga?

Thanks a lot, Nopal, for taking the time to answer my questions.