OFFICIAL Apr 24 Burn vs. KC wiz [R]

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  1. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    City vs. Burn future [R]

    Potential starting lineup lifted form the KC board:

    Meola
    Zotinca-Thomas-Conrad-Garcia
    Zavagnin-Gutierrez
    Klein-(Walsh or Gomez)
    Wolff-Arnaud

    Some discussion whether it would be Diego Walsh or Francisco Gomez running the show for them, offensively.

    Wow. That's a some defense. I think Thomas and Burciaga led the Olympic Qualifying tournament in cards and PKs given up. For a reference on Zotinica, see what he did to get Hejdude tossed last weekend. Garcia is a hack. Conrad is 'just' phsical. If the ref doesn't control this one early, our attackers are going to have to keep their cool.

    Zavagning and Gutierrez are effective Dmids. Klein will cause us problems, but if we can contain him, I predict a Dallas victory.
     
  2. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    At least you didn't say "Kansas vs Burn".

    Garcia is no "hack". Smart pain in the ass defender who does anything and everything the referees allow, yes. Hack, no.
     
  3. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    ooo look at me shaking in my boots, if we don't win this we need to take a hard look at the consitency of the team. If we can shut down Chicago, and come away with Soldier Field with a 2-0 victory, theres no reason to tie or lose to this KC team in Big D. My goal is for us to go at least 4 games undefeated...
     
  4. Alex Sanz

    Alex Sanz New Member

    Apr 6, 2000
    TX
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    I agree 247, the way we played the last two games, this game should be a shoe in.

    SAturday can't come quick enough!
     
  5. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    Man, after last year, I don't think that any game will be a "shoo-in."

    If we win, it'll be a 1-0 or 2-1 score. The Wizards under Bob Gansler don't roll over that easily.

    But if I were a betting man, I'd bet on a draw.
     
  6. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    This is MLS where anybody but the MetroStars can turn it around in an off-season.

    KC was 7-0 (3 SO losses) to end 1999 (3 GF - 8 GA)
    KC was 10-0-2 to start 2000 (25 GF - 5 GA, 9 SOs :eek: )
     
  7. Jambon

    Jambon Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    Austin, TX
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    I'm really looking forward to this game, as it will tell us a lot about the team. This is a game we "should" win. We're facing a team at reduced strength. We're playing at home. We've played well and even shown improvement in our first two games. In my opinion, we have superior talent. But can we maintain the focus and concentration necessary to beat a well-coached, defensively-capable team? The only reason I even ask is because inconsistency has been the mortal enemy of the Burn for 9 years now. It would be completely in the Burn's character to beat the defending Eastern Conference champ on the road, then return home and lose to a team that might wind up last in the West. We've all seen this scenario happen before.

    I expect our midfield to dominate our opponent for the third week in a row. I think we are the first decent midfield that KC will have faced this year. Whether or not we can convert that into the creation of numerous scoring chances against a solid KC defense is another question.

    I give KC a slight edge on defense. Their talent is solid and Gansler is an excellent coach on that side of the ball. Our D has not really come together completely and has experienced a few breakdowns in each game.

    Luckily this should be nullified by our strong advantage at forward. I have no respect for Arnaud or Wolff, and combined with my predicted domination by our midfield, they should spend most of their time coming out towards midfield just to try to collect the occasional ball. Nhelko and Johnson, on the other hand, should continue to stretch defenses and provide long-range outlets for our defense/midfield. Finishing will be the decisive factor for both teams.

    Best case scenario: Dallas scores early of set piece play. KC forced to move forward in search of equalizer. Burn takes advantage of extra space on counter. Burn wins 4-0

    Worst case scenario: Defensive brainfart for Dallas or fluke goal for KC early. KC goes into instant deep bunker. No more than one Wizard crosses midfield stripe for remainder of game. KC wins 1-0.
     
  8. Viking64

    Viking64 Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Tarheel State
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    I look forward to kicking their arse in, but nothing is a shoo in. I wonder if we'll see Kreis off the bench yet. I look forward to exploiting Thomas. Now if the Burn could ever get off a decent shot from a corner kick, Thomas would be worse than being a man down for them.
     
  9. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    plus we owe KC an ass whooping of a life time, we've let them get away with garbage wins and ties in the past 3 years, we need to just put foot to ass on this one, really add to team chemistry and confidence.
     
  10. Alex Sanz

    Alex Sanz New Member

    Apr 6, 2000
    TX
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    OK, maybe I shouldn't have said shoo-in. But I am quite confident we are the much better team. Having said that, I realize anything can happen in soccer.

    I think Jambon is right on with his worst and best case scenarios. My prediction is a 3-1 Burn win. Have no idea how City scores.

    Note: I predicted 2-1 Burn over Colorado and 1-0 Burn over Chicago. I was one Burn goal off on each one. I wanted to predict 4-1 for this Saturday, but brought it down to 3-1. I should be right on.

    SCORCHED EARTH.

    PS: We OWN City at the Bowl.
     
  11. chazsoccer

    chazsoccer Member

    Nov 22, 1999
    Republic of Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    Alex -

    Warning! Warning! The Karma police have been watching you.
    You are to be considered a "person of interest". :eek:

    I just saw Brushes Sand post in another thread, so I thought it only fair to give you a heads up :D ...Don't weauxf the soccer godz!!
     
  12. br13

    br13 New Member

    Jun 12, 2003
    Houston, TX
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    Jambon, good post. I think that your above statement is dead on and the #1 problem that the Wizards have - the forwards are ALWAYS coming back to midfield to get touches. I tend to have a little more respect for their forwards than you (especially Igor who is down - a guy I feel is one of the most underrated players in MLS), but they are never allowed to make runs forward (utilizing their speed) because they are always coming back for the ball.

    I'm obviously in my pessemistic mood this morning - all the positive energy in this thread is terrifying me. We had a great win last week, but the Fire were just returning from Costa Rica and they hadn't scored in three games. The fact that we are at home and Preki is not playing should make us slight favorites, but I'm not sure if we should be expecting multiple goals. KC's two matches this year were 0-0 and 1-0, and in the exhibition we had in OKC was on a goal mouth scramble after a corner. As has been stated in some posts here - the Wizard D is good. A solid back line (Zotinca-Thomas-Conrad-Garcia) and a good Dmid (Zavagnin). I think that we should hope to eek out the 1-0 victory, but not be too disappointed with a nil-nil draw.

    I think in many ways this KC team is similar to the Burn - Veteran keeper, Solid Defence and Dmid - Strong on the right, average to below average on the left - an attacking mid that is trying to mold into that position - and forwards who have tended to have trouble finishing. Should be a good matchup - given that the Fire had just played in Costa Rica, I think this should be the toughest test yet for this rebuilt Burn side.
     
  13. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    Is this game on the Direct Kick package?
     
  14. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    According to the schedule I printed of the Indemand website, it is.
     
  15. Alex Sanz

    Alex Sanz New Member

    Apr 6, 2000
    TX
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    I do NOT, and should not, mess with the Gawdz.

    Maybe I should have made it clear that my prior post was a dream I had.

    I expect a 1-1 tie. ;)
     
  16. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    I'm guessing that both inDemand and Dish will carry it, but that DirecTV won't.
     
  17. Zé Bill

    Zé Bill Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    DISH's Sat. listings say ch. 464 Dallas × K.C.
    7:30 p.m.

    "DISH people": Ain't it a drag you can't get the box to change channels, like, to record the first part of an east coast game and then have it switch to record the Burn game? Because it always says "call to subscribe" even when you're all subscribed and paid up?

    At times, in years past, you could program it to change channels---'remind box' 'tune to channel'?
    ---or am I missing something this year?
    K.C.---
    Going out on a limb: I don't think Shavar Thomas is a shrewd defender yet.

    Jamaican U-23 or Wizards jersey, he hasn't gotten the hang of that "accidentally on purpose" mentality that works to camoflauge obstruction and tripping by effective D's like Nick Garcia, therefore Shavar gets FK's and PK's called against his teams.
    Partly that, but mainly due to the Burn's accelerating rate of combustion: Burn win Sat.
     
  18. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    It's in the DirecTV guide. Channel 795, I believe.
     
  19. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    Oops, yeah. I was thinking a week ahead. With my upcoming travel, I'm already scoping out my programming set for next weekend. It's the Colorado at Kansas City game that doesn't show up on DirecTV's MLS Direct Kick page.
     
  20. soccerlube

    soccerlube Member

    Aug 25, 2003
    Gonzales, TX
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    What is our potential/probable lineup for Saturday?
     
  21. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    I went to training today and will have a practice report later tongiht.
    http://www.3rddegree.net/

    based on what I saw here is your probable lineup

    EJ Nhleko
    Quill Davis Valakari O'brien
    Behncke GIbbs Jolley Salyer
    Garlick

    there will be much more in the practice report.
     
  22. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    I hate to be this guy, but...

    Saturday April 27 2002
    KC 1 @ DAL 1
    Wednesday July 31 2002
    KC 1 @ DAL 0
    Saturday May 10 2003
    KC 3 @ DAL 1
    Saturday August 16 2003
    KC 2 @ DAL 3

    :rolleyes:
     
  23. Alex Sanz

    Alex Sanz New Member

    Apr 6, 2000
    TX
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    2003 wasn't at the Bowl.

    2002 was an aberration.

    8/25/01 Dallas 3 Kansas City 0
    6/17/00 DAllas 4 Kansas City 1
    3/20/99 Dallas 4 Kansas City 0
    7/10/99 Dallas 5 Kansas City 0
    4/25/98 DAllas 3 Kansas City 1

    So in the last seven games played at the Bowl, the Burn is 5-1-1, 20 goals scored versus Kansas City's 4.

    Pretty close to owning, IMO.
     
  24. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    I guess it depends on how much the '98 and '99 teams matter in 2004. But then this season is so young we don't know what last years form has to do with Dallas do we? And we all know how many injuries KC has. I just think the Dallas fans seem a little too sure of themselves being 2 whole games removed from the disaster that was 2003.
     
  25. ArsenalTexan3

    ArsenalTexan3 Member

    Arsenal
    Sep 24, 2002
    Jakarta
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Re: City vs. Burn future [R]

    Well if you want to show the results of past games, you need to show all, not some.

    Sounds liek the wiz fan is getting scared.
     

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