Official 2022 Samurai Blue thread

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Samurai Warrior, Jan 7, 2022.

  1. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member

    Barcelona
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    #76 HTCONEM8, Feb 2, 2022
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2022
    Australia squandered their chances when they drew f**kin' China and KSA at home.
    I also don't see them qualify directly. And tbh, they are Asia's best representative against the 5th team from CONMEBOL.
     
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  2. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Wait what did you mean with that? Aussies are, being honest, "the best asian representative" against the 5th conmebol team?
    You meant the best between the 3rd ranked or the best of ALL the asian team? If the latter how is it possible that a team that draw against China and ended 3rd despite evenb an easy last match vs the already qualified KSA, is "the best from asia"???
     
  3. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member

    Barcelona
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I kinda worded it badly but yeah, I meant between Aus and Uae, the former is better. They have the best chances winning against the 5th Conmebol team.
    Historically speaking, they did oust a Conmebol team i.e. Uruguay in a WC playoff before, 2006 I believe, that Australia was much stronger.
     
  4. gamban98

    gamban98 Member

    Dec 7, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    The depth of centre backs is incredible. Even the untested duo of Itakura and Taniguchi toyed with Saudi easily. I hope Japan will try 3 CBs after the qualification..
     
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  5. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yeah they really should consider a 3-back formation with the faster Tomiyasu and Itakura on the outside of old man captain Yoshida. Maybe trial it in a friendly or two.
     
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  6. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    3cbs for a 3-5-2 ala Troussier Japan???
     
  7. mushu21_2

    mushu21_2 Member

    Manchester United
    Vietnam
    Sep 1, 2018
    They don't lack talents in CBs, and with 3 back formation they can try more adventurous WB options like Soma, Hatate or even Ito. Yamane also looks impressive pushing forward.

    However, they still have to find a stable CMs couple. The reason they have to switch from 4231 to 433 is the 2 CMs for the last year were never convincing and were too easily overrun at times, even against the like of Oman. They may use Morita + Tanaka, but that duo only thrived in Kawasaki, never tested elsewhere. And it leaves Endo out, since Endo + Tanaka alone didn't work, and I don't think Endo + Morita would work.

    If they use 3 back formation and a trio in midfields, which means they have to deploy 2 CFs, the position that Japan never looked convincing. Also, I doubt some of Japan's supposed stars like Kubo, Mitoma or Doan would perform in this formation.
     
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  8. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member

    Barcelona
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Funny how things here get quiet once the JNT finishes its matches. Can't say the same for the Nadeshiko thread :laugh:.
     
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  9. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Is the Nadeshiko more popular?
     
  10. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member

    Barcelona
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I guess so. Oh, and more active and passionate.
     
  11. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    How come? They havent done much success lately, have they?
     
  12. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    This thread was far more active (and passionate) at Zac Japan time.

    Maybe some people stopped follow JNT after 2014 debacle and 2015 bad figure in Asian Cup.

    Maybe when the golden generation (Honda, Kagawa, Nagatomo & Co.) went down the hill and the new youngsters in europe failed (Miyaichi, Usami, the poor Kitotake etc) there were no expectations to follow JNT anymore.

    At the same time (more or less) Nadeshiko were WC Winner and always end in the first 2 places in WC/OG winning the other trophies.

    Let's hope that the dudes in Scotland and Minamino will do something remarkable to push back some fan and maybe make new ones too.
     
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  13. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I guess you are right. Its normal.
    And I think this new generation will put some more light on JNT, but Moriyasu is big part of it not being as popular anymore Im sure.

    And they need a big result again soon.
     
  14. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Guys, the real reason is that the Nadeshiko have a thread for everything.
    It's not the national team thread.
     
  15. Testator

    Testator Member

    Glasgow Celtic
    Croatia
    Sep 5, 2017
    Croatian coast
    My idea for the CM trio: Hatate left, Tanaka center, Morita right. Hatate would be great at confusing wide opposition players with his movement, and helping out the left wing back in defense. I was impressed by Soma at the Olympics, so, maybe he should be LWB? Or course, Hatate himself could be LWB.

    CF: Osako plus Maeda or Furuhashi. Holding the ball up works best when there is immediate support.
     
  16. morimotomania93

    Japan
    Jan 22, 2019
    what are your predictions for the last 4 games of group B? here are mine.

    China 1 - 2 Saudi Arabia
    Australia 1 - 1 Japan
    Saudi Arabia 1 - 2 Australia
    Japan 4 - 0 Vietnam
     
  17. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member

    Barcelona
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Mine would be:
    China 0 - 2 Saudi Arabia
    Australia 0 - 0 Japan
    Saudi Arabia 1 - 2 Australia
    Japan 3 - 0 Vietnam

    Japan should avoid loss at all costs against the Aussies.
     
  18. morimotomania93

    Japan
    Jan 22, 2019
    I hope that China will draw against Saudi Arabia. I have the impression that China will be able to cause problems to this Saudi Arabia team, despite their humiliation against Vietnam.
     
  19. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member

    Barcelona
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I hope so but this China team is really poor, I don't see them winning. But they might take the advantage of Saudi playing under pressure and repeat what N. Korea did in WCQ 2010 when they played a frustrated Saudi team that played poorly due to the immense pressure put on them. Just park the bus and frustrate the F out of them :rolleyes:
     
  20. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Tomiyasu probably will miss the match.
    Furuhashi probably don't even called since he will be out of injury after the calls.

    If we don't wanna fall into a nigthmare situation (ala Agony of Doa) vs Vietnam we can't lose this match, even a draw it will be fine.

    Let's hope Maeda will play and delivery.
    I think this is the last chance for the Aussie so they will fight in berserk mode. We need people with balls there.
     
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  21. morimotomania93

    Japan
    Jan 22, 2019
    Here is the list without surprise against Australia and Vietnam.

    Japan Squad
    Goalkeepers: Eiji Kawasahima, Shuichi Gonda, Daniel Schmidt, Kosei Tani.
    Defenders: Yuto Nagatomo, Maya Yoshida, Sho Sasaki, Hiroki Sakai, Shogo Taniguchi, Miki Yamane, Naomichi Ueda, Ko Itakura, Yuta Nakayama.
    Midfielders/Forwards: Yuya Osako, Genki Haraguchi, Gaku Shibasaki, Wataru Endo, Junya Ito, Takuma Asano, Takumi Minamino, Hidemasa Morita, Kaoru Mitoma, Daizen Maeda, Reo Hatate, Ayase Ueda, Ao Tanaka, Takefusa Kubo.

    Yoshida back for Japan's crunch tie against Australia (the-afc.com)
     
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  22. HTCONEM8

    HTCONEM8 Member

    Barcelona
    May 16, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    One last push, guys. Come on!
     
  23. Kanarienvogel

    Kanarienvogel Member

    Nov 15, 2019
    Well, there are little surprises.

    Sasaki back in to me surprising, I thought with Nakayama having established himself as no 2 even Moriyasu would let Sasaki be, but no, he's back. While Muroya now seems out... Yes, Sakai, Yamane, Muroya, Japan IMO looks very good there, but why bring Sasaki for the left if you have the 700 times superior Muroya on the right? Plus I like Muroya a lot, might even have had him start at times last year, when IMO Sakai looked rather bad. He was back to his old self vs Saudi Arabia, so no problem with him starting of course, but Muroya IMO has been very reliable, good, solid when he got to play.

    Other surprise, Doan out! Finally. Negative surprise, no Kamada again. Yep, he doesn't really fit that well into the new system, but still, you bring Asano who is completely useless? But no Kamada?
     
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  24. morimotomania93

    Japan
    Jan 22, 2019
    very disappointed that he didn't select Nakajima too.
     
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  25. KATO

    KATO Member

    Nov 26, 2011
    Manchester
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Okugawa, Kamada, Doan, Onaiwu, Ito, Sugawara… even Yuma Suzuki for domestic based players.
     

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