Official 2020 Nadeshiko Japan Thread [R] - なでしこジャパン(英語スレッド)

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  1. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
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    Mar 26, 2017
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    Spain 2 Japan 1

    Defensive cock up Kumagai
     
  2. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
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    Why we have to give away goals like that? :x3:

    Defensive blunder between Kumagai and Sugita and 2-1 Spain at the beginning of 2nd Half.

    Let's hope 2nd Half goes like the 1st one and we end scoring after taking a goal in a few minutes.
     
  3. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

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    Yes. But the rest of the defense is not playing much better. They just gave up a goal due to poor play at the back. It looks like, right now, Japan needs to do some real work on their defense and on decisions at the back.
     
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  4. blissett

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    Aug 20, 2011
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    The other player replaced was Sugasawa, I guess. Until Iwabuchi remains on the pitch, we can always hope to score.
     
  5. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
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    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    Momiki for Ikejiri
     
  6. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
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    Ikejiri out, Momiki in at 56'.

    Momiki had done well and score at SheBelieves Cup last year: let's hope she can do it again.

    Ikejiri wasn't bad, though.
     
  7. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    BBC commentary...."Japan short of ideas".....fair comment
     
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  8. blissett

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    Aug 20, 2011
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    63' Miyake for Minami.
     
  9. blissett

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    Aug 20, 2011
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    We make too many mistakes: so far Spain is deserving the win.

    Good save by Yamashita.
     
  10. FanOfFutbol

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    This will sound a bit strange but it looks like Japan is too disciplined. That is they seem so concerned about position and balance and formation that they forget the creative and fun part of the game. If soccer is not mostly fun then you should not be playing it and many players on Japan do not seem to be having any fun.
     
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  11. blissett

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    75': after the obsessive pressing in 1st Half, our players look quite gassed (understandable, given the moment in the season).

    Chances for Spain one after the other and I fear they could more easily score 3-1 than we could equalize, especially now that Iwabuchi is subbed out.

    We are quite predictable offensively, and we miss a player like Hasegawa.
     
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  12. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
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    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    Spain 3 Japan 1.....more poor defending
     
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  13. blissett

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    75': after the obsessive pressing in 1st Half, our players look quite gassed (understandable, given the moment in the season).

    Chances for Spain one after the other and I fear they could more easily score 3-1 than we could equalize, especially now that Iwabuchi is subbed out.

    We are quite predictable offensively, and we miss a player like Hasegawa.

    Edit: while I finish writing, umtenth horror-show defense from us and Spain scores 3-1 indeed.
     
  14. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

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    How does it feel to be right about things like this? :ROFLMAO: Another mistake at the back for Japan and another goal for Spain.
     
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  15. blissett

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    Sorry for the double post (with edit): am I the only one experimenting troubles in editing posts here on BS today?
     
  16. #5nadeshikofan

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    May 26, 2012
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    Sounds like we are missing a defense with teeth (and fins). I have been asking that question for a while now: Who will replace Sameshima?
     
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  17. blissett

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    Endo doesn't look like the right answer.
     
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  18. FanOfFutbol

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    Japan REALLY needs to step up their game. Both England and the US are able to run big scores and, with a sloppy defense like Japan has shown so far, it could get REAL ugly against high scoring teams. Japan's goalkeeper is all that stands between Japan and 5 or 6 - 1 and Spain is not really a high scoring team.
     
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  19. #5nadeshikofan

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    May 26, 2012
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    Everybody and there sister wants to shine and plays forward or midfield, leaving the defense to be the step child ( so many metaphors....).
     
  20. FanOfFutbol

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    However Japan has truly learned something from Spain. They have pretty much mastered the Olé defense.
     
  21. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
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    Well, indeed it's no more a question of relying on "veterans" or not: fact is, most of the veterans are often not available because out injured and so we have some months to find a reliable line-up for the Olympics.
     
  22. blissett

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    Well, FT 3-1.

    If, in the first half, a draw could have been considered almost fair, in 2nd half Spain clearly deserved the win.

    We're rusty to say the least. As @FanOfFutbol correctly said, let's hope is doesn't become too much ugly for us in the rest of the tournament.

    Since it's midnight here in Italy, I leave any further comments to tomorrow.
     
  23. Manchester Nadeshiko

    Ehime F.C. Ladies
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    F.T. Spain 3 Japan 1

    What I saw.....the team who played the better football beat the team who can play better football ...but didn't (because they are out of season)

    Spain were driving a car with a warmed up engine.....We've just got ours out of the garage and started the engine.
     
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  24. Lechus7

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    Aug 31, 2011
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    Well as off-season performances go...it wasn't bad. Takakura will have a lot to munch on but only after this tournament. I'm curious what she will decide about Endo.

    Other problem is Kumagai...cuz it's same story as it was in WWC. She made a lot of errors in France. She doesn't play CB for whole year (DMF in Lyon) and then she is expected to "reacall it" during few NT camps. Perhaps the time has come to pair Minami and Miyake with Kumagai in front of them.
     
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  25. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

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    That is an excuse often used. I know our (US') men's side has used that often to explain why the are so bad. but that excuse does not really hold for the poor defense Japan snowed in this match. No matter the time of he year Japan just played a quite poor match defensibly and they lost to the better team on this day. The seemed to not put out the needed effort until the last few minutes. Ten or fifteen minutes of the match shows that Japan could play well today. They just did not choose to apply themselves for much of the match.

    We will see later tonight if "out of season" means much at this level. The US is also not in season.

    Now travel could be a good excuse. Japan did look sluggish and they have a lot to be concerned about so, maybe, they were simply tired and Japan is undergoing a crises about the coronavirus. They could be both mentally and physically tired.
     
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