Official 2016 AFC Champions League Thread

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  1. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Ehm, is this rumour about Jackson Martinez true?
    Really?

    Cadena SER reporting that Atlétco Madrid have sold Jackson Martínez to Guangzhou Evergrande in China for €45million
     
  2. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    depends if this looks enough of a proof for you
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  3. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    AFC must do something. This is embarassing.
    South Korea and Japan will be too effected from this crazy spending.
     
  4. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    I think Japan has money to do that, but for what? (Ok, not to pay 40 for a player, but you can sign a good foreigner with 10). To destroy the local players and the national team. Where is Japan as a national team and where is China? Japan follows the right path. How many Chinese are playing in Europe?
     
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  5. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Right, but AFC Champions League will become unwatchable in a few years.

    Alex Teixeira + Jackson Martinez to Guangzhou Evergrande for 92 millions.
    Where's AFC? Where's FIFA? FFS.
     
  6. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Alex is official? What they can do, the AFC? Nothing IMO.
     
  7. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Applying financial Fair-Play also for this ********ed-up situation?
     
  8. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    financial Fair-Play is only for the small teams! That's our world. If you have money you are big if not, no. Quite simple. Do you think the financial Fair-Play will stop City to sign Neymar in the summer. I don't think.
     
  9. greenlion

    greenlion Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    CHINA
    Club:
    Beijing Guoan
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Alex Teixeira is closing on a 50m EUR transfer to Jiangsu Suning
     
  10. greenlion

    greenlion Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    CHINA
    Club:
    Beijing Guoan
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    I think J-League doesn't take the ACL seriouslly
     
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  11. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Well, I don't blame them since the shit is happening.
     
  12. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Brace yourselves for Falcao in China. I had this feeling since a week ago.
     
  13. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    Tokyo starts tomorrow. No foreigners expected to be in the starting 11 for them:

     
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  14. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    I mean is Ha Dae-Sung, but I don't see him as a foreigner. Sandaza and Burns.
     
  15. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Come on, think about it, surely Evergrande is a great team, but its not like they are dominating, winning every single match 3-0 etc. They won the league by the smallest possible margin, and struggled in several matches in ACL as well, both last year and the year before. Their 2 legs vs Gamba could have easily ended a different way, and they lost to KAshima in the group stage. Reysol were no match to them, but say, if they had met Urawa or Hiroshima instead they could have struggled a lot more. And its not lke the foreigners they had were that much worse than they one they bought now either..

    I dont support big spending teams like this ( I detest Man City and Chelsea for example), but that football becomes more global, and that we see more superstars in Asia as well is positive I think. It will generate more money to the ACL as well, increasing the attendances in the matches which eventually will be positive for Japanese clubs as well.

    Looking forward to another great ACL season!
     
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  16. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    won by another Chinese team again thanks to their great foreigners.
     
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  17. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Come on, Evergrande won in 2013 and 2015. Didnt even reach the final in 2014. And they won by very small margin both times ( away-goals vs Seoul and 1-0 aggregate last year). All other Chinese clubs crashed and burned, despite having foreign players who earn twice as much per player than the entire foreign quota for a Japanese team combined.

    In the last 7 seasons, Korean teams have made it to the final 4 times, and in Western Asia Saudi Arabia have been and still are much more dominant than Chinese teams are and most likely will be.

    Dont really see the difference, and if money was the only factor then English teams would dominate CL (and EL) every single year, while in reality they are being dominated and outplayed by German, Spanish or Italian teams with 1/5th or 1/10th of their budget in some cases....

    More money into ACL, better quality on the tournament, more coverage in the World Football press, higher attendances etc will in the long-term be good for Asia and ACL I think. I dont agree with how the Chinese teams are trying to accomplish this, but the end-result can be the same.
     
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  18. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    1) I don't think foreigners aren't a factor for Evergrande. They've been and they will be.
    2) It's not about the foreigners, but how much their spending. Plus they've not reached the final in 2014 only because Asia must have a West and East Asia team. Otherwise, they've still reached "Eastern Conference final" ( = semifinal) against WSW.
     
  19. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Yeah, they have the best Chinese players as well. But still, they won the league with just 1 point. PSG is currently 21 points ahead of the 2nd placed team in France, and we are just a little bit over halfway... so its a looong way to go before we see that kind of scenario.

    And teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid and Bayern reaches the semifinal of the Champions League almost every season too. In fact, one of those 3 teams have been in the final of CL for 7 years in a row now, and will most likely be it this season as well. The alleged Chinese domination in Asia is nothing like that yet , and will not be anytime soon either imho.
     
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  20. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    We'll see in ten years. My only hope is that Japan retain its second place in club ranking.
     
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  21. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Kota Mizunuma and Takuma Abe are having great debut with FC Tokyo.

    The amount of enthusiasm and freshness is incredible for FC Tokyo, as if it isn't their 1st game of the season!

    The first half is yet to be ended and they are leading 3-0 and could've make it 5-0 or 6-0.

    Good Luck.
     
  22. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    7-0 so far.

    Please put more teams from J League in preliminary round AFC!
     
  23. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    80 minutes:

    FC Tokyo leading 7-0.

    Shots: 22-1.
     
  24. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    FT: 9-0 for FC Tokyo against Thai side Chonburi, and they are through to the groups stage.
     
  25. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Three of four teams have good chances of passing the group stage.
    I have just some doubts about Urawa.
     

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