Official 2008 Japanese NT Thread [R]

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  1. Video Newbie

    Video Newbie New Member

    Sep 10, 2005
    Back in US :(
    新年明けましておめでとうございます。
    Happy New Year to everyone.

    Hope that 2008 will go well for the men's national team. Here's the schedule for 2008 right now.

    26 January, 19:10 -- Japan v Chile - National Stadium, Tokyo - KIRIN CHALLENGE CUP (Friendly)
    30 January, 19:20 -- Japan v Bosnia-Herzegovina - National Stadium, Tokyo - KIRIN CHALLENGE CUP (Friendly)
    6 February, 19:20 -- Japan v Thailand - Saitama Stadium, Saitama - FIFA WC 3rd Round Qualifier
    17 February, 18:15 - Japan v DPR Korea - Chongqing Olympic Sports Center, China PR - EAFF Finals
    20 February, 18:15 - China PR v Japan - Chongqing Olympic Sports Center, China PR - EAFF Finals
    23 February, 18:15 - Japan v Korea Rep - Chongqing Olympic Sports Center, China PR - EAFF Finals
    26 March, ??:?? ---- Bahrain v Japan - Bahrain National Stad, Manama - FIFA WC 3rd Round Qualifier
    ?? May, ??:?? ------ Japan v ??UNKNOWN TEAM 1?? - UNKNOWN - KIRIN CUP (Friendly)
    ?? May, ??:?? ------ Japan v ??UNKNOWN TEAM 2?? - UNKNOWN - KIRIN CUP (Friendly)
    2 June, ??:?? ------ Japan v Oman - (Yokohama) - FIFA WC 3rd Round Qualifier
    7 June, ??:?? ------ Oman v Japan - Sultan Qaboos Sports Complex, Muscat - FIFA WC 3rd Round Qualifier
    14 June, ??:?? ----- Thailand v Japan - (Thailand) - FIFA WC 3rd Round Qualifier
    22 June, ??:?? ----- Japan v Bahrain - Saitama Stadium, Saitama - FIFA WC 3rd Round Qualifier

    VN
     
  2. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    With the Olympic Games nearing, It will be interesting to see if the Chinese fans will humiliate themselves by booing Japan's anthem, or if they'll show some sportsmanship... I hope common sense and love for soccer will prevail.
     
  3. lilcookie

    lilcookie Member

    May 6, 2005
    choc chip mountain
    i don't think thats going to happen. They want to get a clean image. And if the Japanese team get them wired up, I suppose that image of them would not happen.
     
  4. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Whatever the fans do or say, it will definitely be a game not to be missed... :eek:
     
  5. lilcookie

    lilcookie Member

    May 6, 2005
    choc chip mountain
    it would be a really funny but excruciating game to watch.
    Apart from that, if the chinese fans don't repeat the behavior shown from the 2004 asian cup that all means, that their government can do anything.
     
  6. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Ok, this should not degrade into a political discussion; however, the Chinese government can do ANYTHING. It is a totalitarian, one-party state.
    I think what they want/need now it is a clean "olympic" image, thus this time the level of tolerance will be very low.
    Well, we'll see...
     
  7. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Takahara's main reasoning for coming back to J.League is so he can play in all of the Japan NT games.

    That's brilliant.

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    Also, first qualifying opponent Thailand are going to Manchester for 2 weeks to train with Manchester City cause the guy that owns Man City is from Thailand and they're gonna improve tactics apparently there.

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    And Takeshi Okada said that his aim is to place better than South Korea did at 2002 WC Korea/Japan.

    so 3rd or up.
     
  8. hallelujah_united

    Oct 21, 2006
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    A bold statement, but we don't achieve anything if we don't aim high in life I guess.
     
  9. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Is he securing the services of Southamerican referees as South Korea did?
    C'mon if they took Hyundais they would probably take aLexus, uh? :cool:
     
  10. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Is he securing the services of Southamerican referees as South Korea did?
    C'mon if they took Hyundais they would probably take a Lexus, uh? :cool:
     
  11. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    come on Gora, we've been through this before! hehe
    u're italian, and i understand ur nationalism plays a part here... but still ;) IF we counted the dubious calls for and against Italy im sure the box with the calls for ITaly would be quite much bigger than the one against. It was just payback time! ( and by that i means the calls were dubious, and came from poor refereeing, and was NOT the result of crooked koreans).
     
  12. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Hey we don't know for sure, anything can happen. I read about how Roy Jones Jr. was screwed. Most likely it is just Hiddink's magic luck in this case though..
     
  13. Luislb10

    Luislb10 New Member

    Feb 2, 2007
    Portugal
    Chile Name Squad For Japan Friendly:

    GK:
    Miguel Pinto (Universidad de Chile),
    Cristopher Toselli (Universidad Católica)

    DF:
    Roberto Cereceda (Colo-Colo)
    Osvaldo González (Universidad de Concepción)
    Gonzalo Jara (Colo-Colo)
    Hans Martínez (Universidad Católica)
    Gary Medel (Universidad Católica)

    MF:
    Marco Estrada May (Universidad de Chile)
    Gonzalo Fierro March (Colo-Colo)
    Manuel Iturra (Universidad de Chile)
    Pablo González (Universidad Católica)
    Fernando Meneses (Colo-Colo)
    Pedro Morales (Universidad de Chile)
    Carlos Villanueva (Audax Italiano)

    FW:
    Jean Beausejour (Cobreloa)
    Fabián Orellana (Audax Italiano)
    Eduardo Rubio (Colo-Colo)
    Mathias Vidangossy (Almería)
     
  14. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Which game are we talking about...?
    Which World Cup?
    The Koreans wanted Italy out even before meeting us... TWO REGULAR GOALS called off against Croatia... One against Mexico... phew...

    Yeah, sure.
    What about the game with Spain? :rolleyes:

    If Japan would have bought refs the same way Korea did, they would have been in the semifinal as well... That Japan, with Inamoto and Nakata at their top, was much, muuuuuch better than that South Korea.
     
  15. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    were they? A team with players like Toda, Ichikawa, Alex,Yanagisawa,Myojin,Suzuki etc as starting members. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Japan over Korea, and I think the last couple of years ahve shown that Japan is better than Korea. But regarding the 2002 versions of the teams i have to disagree.

    Japan VS South Korea Best:
    GK: Seigo Narazaki vs Lee Woon Jae Korea
    DF: Tsuneyasu Miyamoto vs Hong Myong Bo Korea
    DF: Naoki Matsuda vs Choi Jin Cheul Japan
    DF: Daisuke Ichikawa vs Kim Tae young Korea
    DF: Alex/Koji Nakata vs Song Chong Goog Korea
    MB: Shinji Ono vs Lee Young Pyo Japan
    MB: Hidetoshi Nakata vs Park Ji Sung Japan
    MB: Junichi Inamoto vs Yoo Sang Chul Korea
    MB: Kazuyuki Toda vs Kim Nam Il Korea
    FW: Takayuki Suzuki vs Ahn Jung Hwan Korea
    FW: Atsushi Yanagisawa vs Seol Ki Hyeon Korea

    Result: Korea 8 - Japan 3.

    But say, if Japan had Takahara, Nakamura etc with them they would perhaps have been better on paper, but I really think Korea was superior to Japan back then ( which is NOT the case today).
     
  16. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Ok, can you now count how many of the Japanese players actually had played in Europe, and how many of the Koreans...? :D
     
  17. seolseol

    seolseol Member+

    Apr 26, 2003
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    The Korean team of 02 was many many times better than the Japanese team. Don't fkc with me. But it's different now, the Japanese team is much more interesting.
     
  18. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    well, 2 koreans if im not mistaken ( Seol and Ahn), and 3 japanese ( Inamoto, Ono and Hide Nakata) among the starters. Nishizawa and Kawaguchi played in Europe all right but that doesn't mean they were any better than the ones playing in K.League or J.League.

    Come on, why is it european clubs only buys korean players? especially not because korean players are superior to japanese ones. When a good but not great striker as Cho Jae Jin gets a call from Newcastle and other Premier LEague clubs while other equally as good or even better japanese strikers are being "overlooked" it don't have much to do with quality I think.

    Now we're off-topic here so we should be careful not to be yellow-carded :eek:
     
  19. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    you know, in most cases it's actually the mass that's got it wrong ;) and that poll just underlines that ^^

    What about when Japan were humiliated 3-0 by Norway then a mere month prior to the World Cup? ;)
     
  20. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yeah, South Korea was good enough to tie at home against the US (a soccer powerhouse...) in the only non-rigged game they played.
     
  21. goru_no_ura

    goru_no_ura Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 20, 2006
    Miyako of Zipang
    Club:
    Sanfrecce Hiroshima FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Kawaguchi, Nakata Hide, Nakata Koji, Inamoto, Ono, Miyamoto, Toda, Yanagizawa, Nishizawa, Alex... Plus Takahara and Nakamura.

    It's almost the whole team!! :eek:

    Oh, by the way you forgot Park... who grew up in Japan as a soccer player...

    C'mon, be fair.

    I understand that the Koreans want to live in the illusion they had a great team and they won deservedly, but neutral observer have stated the truth in more than one occasion: South korea cheated. It is a known fact in the history of world soccer.

    amen.
     
  22. Breezy

    Breezy Member

    Apr 26, 2006
    Not this shit again...
     
  23. lilcookie

    lilcookie Member

    May 6, 2005
    choc chip mountain
    nah, i disagree, I still think its black Hiddink magic. Seeing what htye did to Australia, yeah, South Korea were the better team in 02.
     
  24. Breezy

    Breezy Member

    Apr 26, 2006
    Yeah, his living and growing up in Korea and Guus Hiddink's assistance in development at PSV isn't worth mentioning.


    Many people, including Koreans, would agree those calls were questionable, but to call all of us cheaters is another thing.

    ps And you're an asshole.
     
  25. rougou

    rougou Member+

    Dec 7, 2003
    Hyogo
    Club:
    AS Roma
    going into the world cup, I actually thought Japan were the better team, having gotten to the final of the confed cup, and done well in friendlies, etc.
    maybe that inspired South Korea right before the world cup though.
     

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