Official 2007 SuperDraft Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Dynamo' started by anderson, Nov 29, 2006.

  1. chrishungate

    chrishungate Member

    Dec 16, 2005
    Katy, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nice. Mike Sambursky - homegrown talent from Katy, TX - which is incidentally where I live.
     
  2. av8tor

    av8tor New Member

    Nov 7, 2006
    Fuera del pais
    Multiple postings from various pundits, but all seemed to qualify his best talent as vision. Seems like having someone with that skill is most important for the position.


    Round 3, a big, local guy from Katy.
     
  3. chrishungate

    chrishungate Member

    Dec 16, 2005
    Katy, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This might just speak to the fact that the players on our first team are so good -- that it's difficult for a rookie to crack the first 11. I've also read that Kinnear is known for not starting rookies much, if at all. I expect maybe we'll see some of last years draft picks (and maybe this years?) more this year because we'll have potentially 5 of our starters out quite a bit for US National team duties in the Gold Cup and Copa America. Maybe that is Dom's thinking with these draft picks, other than just grabbing the best players available.
     
  4. sportsfan-quakes

    Mar 19, 2005
    San Jose
    From what I've read, Sambursky played outside back at the combine and impressed people. So, he could be someone who could play a wide variety of positions - I wonder where Dom is thinking he wants him to play?
     
  5. Vicious Lhasa Apso

    Vicious Lhasa Apso New Member

    Aug 8, 2006
    What an odd draft; it's almost in reverse. Sambursky was touted as a leading middie prospect, Ashe barely made the top ten at his position, and then the Indiana kid was totally absent from lists I saw. So you draft them Indiana kid, Ashe, Sambursky, that order. Strange. Maybe they're trying to surpress contract value or something.

    Three middies, including two top ten prospects, is responsive to our needs. I'll take back my conspiracy theory that we were "ditching".
     
  6. Vicious Lhasa Apso

    Vicious Lhasa Apso New Member

    Aug 8, 2006
    Dom seems to like his D/Ms. Serioux, etc.
     
  7. sportsfan-quakes

    Mar 19, 2005
    San Jose
    Yeah, Sambursky is the only one that I read much of anything about before the draft. I wonder if Dom/Oliver were trying to keep it so that they don't really have to offer a senior contract to anyone.....I like the Ashe and Sambursky picks, not so sure about Hayden. If Hayden is a project to work on at defensive mid, do you really want to /need to use a first round pick on him?

    Will be interesting to see what happens with contracts for these guys, and how they fit into Dom's expectations. I'm still amazed at how quickly Dom cut 2 of the draft picks last year (Schmid and someone else), during the preseason. And that he didn't even use his last pick in last year's supplemental draft. He is very picky about player's attitudes and approach to the game, which tends to build a very strong team-orientation with the players.
     
  8. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Good to see Houston pick Sambursky, but having fallen like that it seems he'll really have to work to make the team.
     
  9. omias

    omias New Member

    Oct 4, 2006
    Florida
    Who was #52 pick?
     
  10. DrLudicrous

    DrLudicrous Member+

    Jun 28, 2002
    Houston
    Eric Ebert
     
  11. Bandido

    Bandido Member

    Apr 6, 2006
    Deperrosbravos N.L.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Did you guys see the new Dynamo scarfs these new recruits are being given??
     
  12. .César.

    .César. Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Houston

    I like the scarfs! But did you see the new jerseys? I think they are going to have to grow on me, or see them in person.
     
  13. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pictures!!! I need a picture! :)
     
  14. Vicious Lhasa Apso

    Vicious Lhasa Apso New Member

    Aug 8, 2006
    Check the Dynamo website. Cycle past the Becks madness and find the draft headline. Kid is wearing it.
     
  15. Dynamo Dave

    Dynamo Dave Member

    Aug 25, 2006
    Rural East Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Click on Mls.net/houstondynamo
     
  16. anderson

    anderson Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm pleased that we took Ashe. I believe that while playing with some youth team on a visit to Brazil, he really impressed and some local clubs even asked about his availability. I haven't followed his career closely at UNC, but I hope he still has the creativity that got people's attention in the past.
     
  17. nobius

    nobius BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 3, 2006
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    You can tell that it's solid orange on the other side, but wow that's a funky font.
     
  18. Vicious Lhasa Apso

    Vicious Lhasa Apso New Member

    Aug 8, 2006
    The way the ESPN pundits were writing of him, he's fast and creative, and only suffers from the coach-fed malady of lacking size. Barrett's not that big....
     
  19. sportsfan-quakes

    Mar 19, 2005
    San Jose
    Not really, there are likely to be a lot of open Developmental roster spots.

    Here is the current players that are "owned" by Houston:

    Senior Roster:

    1. Wade Barrett
    2. Brian Ching
    3. Ricardo Clark
    4. Ryan Cochrane (promoted from Gen Adidas)
    5. Paul Dalglish
    6. Brad Davis
    7. Dwayne Derosario
    8. Kevin Goldthwaite
    9. Kelly Gray
    10. Stuart Holden
    11. Alejandro Moreno
    12. Brian Mullan
    13. Pat Onstad
    14. Eddie Robinson
    15. Craig Waibel
    16. Zach Wells
    17. Chris Wondolowski


    Developmental Roster
    1. Mike Chabala
    2. Martin Hutton
    3. Pat Ianni (Gen Adidas)
    4. Aaron Lanes
    5. Mpho Moloi
    6. Julian Nash
    7. Marcus Storey (although he's not eligible for Dev contract
    in 2007)

    (There's only 7 because Dom never signed his full allotment of 10 Dev players last year)

    Draftees:
    1. John MIchael Hayden
    2. Corey Ashe
    3. Mike Sambursky
    4. Eric Ebert

    THere will be 3 more supplemental draft picks (I think, I'm pretty sure Houston traded one of their supplemental draft picks to KC for the rights to Martin Hutton last year).

    So that addes up to 31 guys fighting for 28 roster spots.

    But you have to assume Marcus Storey is probably gone, as he is highly unlikely to get a sennior roster contract. Also, it's likely one or two of the other Dev players may be gone (that tends to happen each year). Also, Hutton is not eligible for a Dev contract next year, so expect one of the supplemental picks to be a keeper as they need a #3 keeper on the roster.

    So, right there if Storey and Hutton are gone, then there will be 29 guys fighting for 28 spots. That, of course ignores any non-drafted invitees or other pickups. And ignores any of the other Dev players not returning.
     
  20. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I have nothing on this guy.
     
  21. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yeah, you're right. Since he's from the area that makes him more likely to decide to sign a development deal.
     
  22. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Apparently that is the adidas version of the team scarf. Note that Toronto's picks were wearing ones with the same font:

    [​IMG]
     
  23. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    as 4th Round, Ebert is not very good... Needs too much time on the ball. he plays DM.

    ploddingly is the best way to describe him...
     
  24. DownSouth

    DownSouth New Member

    Aug 9, 2002
    Actually I have heard from a good source (although have not seen any rules or anouncement - what else is new with MLS rules....) that MLS has extended the age limit for Developmental contracts. So Story and Hutton may still be elligible.

    Also, I'm not sure that Gen Adidas players count against the Developmental limit?
     
  25. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I dont expect this to change at all. A roster spot will be held open if we are indeed looking for a player from abroad.


    Storey you have to think is gone. I dont see him being offered a full roster spot. Nash and Lanes I think are guys who may be on the outside looking in. THey arent really progressing how youd expect. If Hutton cant go Dev again, its likely youll see him leave. So, to me thats 4 more open dev spots right there. Add in the 3 supplemental picks, I think the only thing the draftees will be worried about is beating out the non-draftee invites and frankly justifying that they have enough to be worth keeping around. That said, if no signing materializes, then that full roster spot is up for grabs, and it would be quite a competition for it I think.

    The big thing looking at the roster is that there is no clear backup for Clark. We might see Gray, Barrett, Iani, Cochrane or even Moloi get time there.

    As for the draftees:

    John Michael Hayden - Holding mid? Outside mid? Hes a hard one to figure out what the plan with him is. There definately is a plan though, since you dont use your first round pick on a guy you dont know what to do with.

    Corey Ashe - Definately a left sided player, but a back too? I think he will be played in midfield. Could turn out to be a great value.

    Mike Sambursky - I think he will be developed as a Right sided player, in both defense and midfield. Based on what Ive seen, he seems like he may grab the opportunity and run with it.

    Eric Ebert - Was a holding mid in college, but seems to have the size to play defense. Could be a player who is moved in the center of defense perhaps?

    Anyways, heres what I think the First and Reserve XIs will look like going into training camp. Subject to camp battles of course.

    First XI
    ======

    Fowards:
    Ching
    Dalglish

    Midfielders:
    AM - De Rosario
    DM - Clark
    RM - Mullan
    LM - Davis

    Defenders:
    LB - Barrett
    RB - Waibel
    RCD - Cochrane
    LCD - Robinson

    Keeper:
    Onstad

    Reserve XI
    =========

    Forwards:
    Moreno
    Wondolowski

    Midfielders:
    RM - Chabala
    LM - Ashe
    AM - Holden
    DM - Moloi

    Defenders:
    RB - Sambursky (?)
    LB - Goldthwaite
    RCB - Gray (?)
    LCB - Ianni

    Keeper:
    Wells

    Outside looking in at this time:
    Hayden - Could replace Moloi or Chabala (who in turn could go on the left in place of Ashe)
    Ebert - Holding mid?

    Id guess in the supplemental rounds we take a keeper, a defender and a forward.
     

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