Offensive fouls in WC

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by lmorin, Aug 2, 2002.

  1. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is a question that I have been mulling since the WC. It is addressed to all, but hopefully Karl Keller and other BS number crunchers will take an interest.

    How many goal-scoring opportunities are lost by attackers needlessly fouling on set plays? This may seem like an innocuous issue, but consider that if a defender commits a foul on a corner kick, a PK will likely result. In contrast, if an attacker commits a foul (shirt pull, hold, trip, etc.), the only obvious effect is a free kick by the defenders. What is less emphasized is the fact that all immediate goal-scoring opportunities ended for the moment. How often did this happen in the WC? I had the impression that it was rather a lot. Certainly, it was far more than there were PKs awarded. Therefore, the attacking team was committing more visible (to the ref) fouls than the defenders. So, to return to the question, were the fouls "needless" or not? If the attacerks had committed fewer fouls, how many more goals would have been scored simply because the ball would have remained in play more in the goal area thereby allowing more scoring opportunities? For current MLS examples, consider Ruiz, Kreis and Twellman, the three leading scorers. All are in the top 10 in fouls committed. To what extent are these a necessary assertion of their desire to score vs inappropriate play that actually interferes with total scoring by them or teammates? Particularly on set plays.

    In the WC, how did various other teams compare to the USMNT with respect to offensive fouls in the attacking quarter?
  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're assuming the standards are the same for attackers and defenders in the box.

    I don't buy that assumption.
  3. Soccerholic

    Soccerholic New Member

    Mar 6, 2001
    Mile High
    Re: Re: Offensive fouls in WC

    I agree with Superdave. For a defender to get called with a foul in the box, he almost has to murder someone. There are exceptions, but I think that this is often the case. For the offensive player, the standard rules for fouls anywhere else on the field apply. To me, there is clearly a dual standard here.
  4. mcontento

    mcontento Member

    Jun 26, 2000
    Catalina Wine Mixer
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, I was offended by every foul against us.

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