Oceania Cup Dead - Long Live the Oceania Cup

Discussion in 'Oceania' started by JLSA, Nov 28, 2004.

  1. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    See:
    http://www.theage.com.au/news/Socce...p/2004/11/28/1101577352325.html?from=storylhs

    Gist:
    Oceania Cup is completely ignored - so, replace it with something that might get attention.
    Idea: Two Oceania nations (Australia and [somewhat controversially I must suggest] New Zealand) and two other teams, say South Korea or Japan or a solid South American side, play a 4-team tournament.

    It's all a bit like the Gold Cup, with Australia playing the part of the USA (that is, play at home if possible, seed yourselves, don't invite the riff-raff, don't worry if your continential champion is from far far away etc etc etc)

    Further down the track it might get a bit bigger - maybe allow island teams to try and qualify, something like that.

    Poll attached for you to add your restricted opinion. It lists types of sides (you could think of the groups as "nearby Asian big-guns", "further away AFC big-guns", "South American super-power" or "mid-level South American team")

    J
     
  2. Muddy19

    Muddy19 New Member

    Jul 4, 2004
    Perth, Australia
    Best idea the OFC have ever had.
     
  3. Kewell!!!

    Kewell!!! New Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    Australia
    Absolutely
     
  4. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Interesting...

    I'm not a fan of guest teams in continental competitions, but I guess we can scrap the Confederations Cup now.
     
  5. Crowdie

    Crowdie New Member

    Jan 23, 2003
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Fantastic idea. I am sure that the AFC will play ball but whether or not the OFC could get Brazil or Argentina down here without paying one hell of a fee is still to be seen.
     
  6. Trussy in Oz

    Trussy in Oz New Member

    Mar 23, 2004
    It seems such a good idea, I can hardly believe that it originated from Oceania.

    We need to avoid this being a "second division" competition
    we need these to be real competitive games so that the fans turn up and that the games get the full commerical media coverage they merit
    South Korea and Japan would always be good to invite, along with the "lesser" South American sides such as Colombia or Paraguay, you don't want Brazil or Argentina to walk away with it or to turn up with a reserve team [or both]

    I also feel that we should look at maybe South Africa or even England or Greece. USA, Mexico or Jamaica would also be a source of good competition and produce exicting games.
     
  7. hiddink_magic

    hiddink_magic New Member

    Feb 27, 2003
    Wendouree
    Don't really mind who we play actually.
     
  8. Flyin Ryan

    Flyin Ryan Member

    May 13, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To me this sounds like nothing more than a watered-down Gold Cup.
     
  9. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    :rolleyes:

    Like the US Congress is a watered-down version of the Westminsterian system.
     
  10. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    Apart from the "watered-down" you are correct - you can't water-down a damp squib.

    J
     
  11. Muddy19

    Muddy19 New Member

    Jul 4, 2004
    Perth, Australia
    Yes but now it will generate $$$$$
     
  12. cosmosRIP

    cosmosRIP Member

    Jul 22, 2000
    Brooklyn NY
    Invite Chile, Ecuador, Peru and Indonesia and call it the South Pacific Cup
     
  13. Auxodium

    Auxodium New Member

    Apr 11, 2003
    Perth, Australia
    i am worried what happens if we (australia) lose the OFC Cup final to an 'outsider' do THEY make it to the Confed cup? :eek:
     
  14. almango

    almango Member+

    Sydney FC
    Australia
    Nov 29, 2004
    Bulli, Australia
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    If the Fed Cup is still agoing concern it will be a team from OFC that represents, regardless of who actually wins the tournament.
     
  15. Auxodium

    Auxodium New Member

    Apr 11, 2003
    Perth, Australia
    Confed Cup will still go ahead, especially if FIFA push so hard for it. but that does raise a good point, what if we lose the OFC Cup to an 'outsider'? :eek:
     
  16. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    It's nothing like the "Gold Cup". It is, however, much like the Nike U.S. Cup. Which is the US and three other countries (Mexico is usually one of the other three) playing a round robin series of games.

    Sounds like a really good idea.
     
  17. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  18. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    You'll need to explain to me which of the following things are not like the Gold Cup. (Quoted by you in the last post)

    "play at home if possible
    seed yourselves
    don't invite the riff-raff
    don't worry if your continential champion is from far far away"

    J
     
  19. Auxodium

    Auxodium New Member

    Apr 11, 2003
    Perth, Australia
    i don't get that? :eek:
     

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