Obesity in America

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by purojogo, Dec 26, 2005.

  1. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City

    No, this is not a crisis. A serious issue does not constitute a crisis. Write it off as splitting hairs but if we're going to be discussing sloppy habits let's not forget the media's sloppy hait of misusing words for dramatic affect.


    cri·sis ( P ) Pronunciation Key (krss)
    n. pl. cri·ses (-sz)

    A crucial or decisive point or situation; a turning point.
    An unstable condition, as in political, social, or economic affairs, involving an impending abrupt or decisive change.
    A sudden change in the course of a disease or fever, toward either improvement or deterioration.
    An emotionally stressful event or traumatic change in a person's life.
    A point in a story or drama when a conflict reaches its highest tension and must be resolved.
     
  2. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    The definitive work on this topic in the Arts:

    The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'
    That's what I said
    The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand
    Or so I have read

    My baby fits me like a flesh tuxedo
    I'd like to sink her with my pink torpedo

    Big bottom, big bottom
    Talk about bum cakes, my girl's got 'em
    Big bottom drive me out of my mind
    How could I leave this behind?

    I met her on Monday, twas my lucky bun day
    You know what I mean
    I love her each weekday, each velvety cheek day
    You know what I mean

    My love gun's loaded and she's in my sights
    Big game is waiting there inside her tights, yeah

    Big bottom, big bottom
    Talk about mud flaps, my girl's got 'em
    Big bottom drive me out of my mind
    How could I leave this behind?


    Lyrics by David St. Hubbins
     
  3. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Or, you could go in this direction:

    Frank Sinatra - Lean Baby Lyrics

    My lean baby - tall and thin
    Five feet seven - of bones and skin
    But when she tells me maybe she loves me
    I feel as mellow as a fellow can be

    She's so skinny - she's so drawn
    When she stands sideways - you (would) think (that) she's gone
    But when she calls me: "baby" - I feel fine
    To think she's frantically, romantically mine

    She's slender, but she's tender
    She makes my heart surrender
    And every night, when I hold her tight
    The feeling is nice - my arms can go around twice

    My lean baby - she's so slim
    A broomstick's wider - but not as trim
    And when she starts to kiss me - then I know
    I love her so, I'll never, ever, let her go

    My lean baby - strange to see
    And all that nothing - it belongs to me
    And though she may be scrawny - she's ok
    Because I wouldn't want her any other way

    She's so skinny - she's so drawn
    When she stands sideways - you (would) think (that) she's gone
    But when she calls me: "baby" - I feel fine
    To think she's frantically, romantically mine

    I chased her - and I caught her
    Then a diamond ring - I bought her
    (hey) the diamonds shine - the ring is so fine
    But here is the twist - she wears it right on her wrist

    My lean baby - she's so slim
    A broomstick's wider - but not as trim
    And when she starts to kiss me - then I know
    I love her so, I'll never, ever, let her go

    My lean baby - tall and thin...
    (do-do-do-do-do,...)
     
  4. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Right back at ya:

    Are you gonna take me home tonight
    All down beside that red firelight
    Are you gonna let it all hang out
    Fat bottomed girls
    You make the rockin' world go round

    Hey I was just a skinny lad
    Never knew no good from bad
    But I knew life before I left my nursery - huh
    Left alone with big fat Fanny
    She was such a naughty nanny
    Heap big woman you made a bad boy out of me
    Hey hey!

    I've been singing with my band
    Across the wire across the land
    I seen ev'ry blue eyed floozy on the way, hey
    But their beauty and their style
    Wear kind of smooth after a while
    Take me to them dirty ladies every time

    (C'mon) Oh won't you take me home tonight?
    Oh down beside your red firelight
    Oh and you give it all you got
    Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin' world go round
    Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin' world go round

    Hey listen here
    Now I got mortgages and homes
    I got stiffness in my bones
    Ain't no beauty queens in this locality (I tell ya)
    Oh but I still get my pleasure
    Still got my greatest treasure
    Heap big woman you done made a big man out of me
    Now get this

    Are you gonna take me home tonight (please)
    All down beside that red firelight
    Are you gonna let it all hang out
    Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin' world go round
    Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin' world go round
    GET ON YOUR BIKES AND RIDE!

    Oooh yeah oh yeah them fat bottomed girls
    Fat bottomed girls
    Yeah yeah yeah
    all right
    ride 'em cowboys
    Fat bottomed girls
    Yes yes
    ohh gets me everytime


    :D
     
  5. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Or just use bodyfat%.
     
  6. Emile

    Emile Member

    Oct 24, 2001
    dead in a ditch
    thanks for the obvious irony - someone needed to say it
     
  7. BudWiser

    BudWiser New Member

    Jul 17, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
  8. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Crisis?
    I don't know.
    Serious public health issue, yes.

    I currently reside in Florida. Every time I go into a Walmart I see 2-3 of these morbidly obese people riding around in scooters. People who would be in a circus freak show 50 years ago. Usually, they are middle aged people. The medical profession is not doing them any favors. They need to get off the scooter and walk.

    The health costs in the future are going to be enormous. I can't shrug off the skyrocketing juvenile diabetes and obesity numbers with the knowledge that we have better medicine to deal with it. We've forgotten how to eat in this country.
     
  9. Yankee_Blue

    Yankee_Blue New Member

    Aug 28, 2001
    New Orleans area
    I have to admit, Fat Vegans crack me up...

    [​IMG]
     
  10. FearM9

    FearM9 New Member

    Jul 14, 2000
    On my bike
    That looks like one of the lez editors of the local liberal weekly rag here in Boise. Nasty.

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    Don't these obesity threads pop up in BigSoccer every couple of months? Wish I knew where they all were so I could just copy and paste my posts onto this thread.

    In addition to targeting McDonald's and Dominoes, add to the list the XBOX360, cell phones, IPOD, Netflix, Hollister, Tivo, kids, housework, studying etc. Just about anything that distracts us from going on a run or lifting weights.
     
  11. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    You are correct--this is considered the most accurate measurement of body fat. I should add that BMI has been shown to correlate almost exactly with body fat percentage and waist-to-hip ratio. (I don't want to hunt for the study again). So while it is true that someone can have an elevated BMI and still be fit as a fiddle, those Michael Jordan types are indeed rarities.
     
  12. minorthreat

    minorthreat Member

    Jan 1, 2001
    NYC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I tend to think diet has a lot to do with it, too.

    I rarely exercise and am a pack-a-day smoker, but I've managed to maintain a pretty reasonable weight by eliminating soda and red meat from my diet.
     
  13. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    The weekend before Christmas, I took the train home from a shopping trip downtown. As I entered the train car, I noticed an extremely obese man (around 400 pounds, I'd say) sitting in one of the seats that has more room. Once I sat down, I noticed that his wife was sitting across the aisle from him. She was also around 400 pounds and relied on a wheelchair to get around; furthermore, the front row of her upper teeth was missing. There were two kids with them, roughly nine or ten years of age. Both were very, very fat. Each kid had upper arms that were thicker than my thighs.

    As we're waiting for the train to start, I can't keep my eyes off of them, because the kids are slugging down large bottles of Pepsi. They were not sipping. One of the girls held the Pepsi to her mouth for a solid fifteen seconds, gulping down half of the bottle. Her face was so thick with fat that the contortions she made while drinking the bottle made her look like she had no eyes. I am not making this up.

    The mother was drinking her Pepsi in the same manner. Then, once they had finished their drinks, they broke out the other snacks. For dad, it was a large bag of cheese and carmel popcorn. For the kids, each had a bag of gummi candy. I don't want to sound judgemental, but it's hard not to make judgements when you're presented with so much evidence. It was an utterly disgusting sight, watching these people pig out, as if they hadn't eaten a bite in two weeks. I wanted to scream at them, "What are you doing to your kids!?!?!" Those little ones will have diabetes by the time they reach high school.

    I don't really have a reason for sharing this. :D
     
  14. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess your story asks can we or should we have the right to say or do anything about this family?
     
  15. sebakoole

    sebakoole New Member

    Jul 11, 2002
    Don't smokers pay more in health insurance premiums? Aren't there, in rare cases, people who are obese as a result of some medical condition and not through any fault of their own? If you can weed out the two groups, I say charge the "behaviorally" obese more in health insurance and charge the "medically" obese the same as everyone else.
     
  16. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    MAn, I tried to be a vegetarian for like a month and put on about 5 pounds pronto. Replaced meat with potato chips. If I became a vegan, I'd probably be massive.
     
  17. MDFootball

    MDFootball New Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    DC
    Umm....ok, so you are a reasonable weight, yet also flirting with lung cancer and emphesyma from the cigs, limited muscle mass and aerobic capacity from the lack of exercise, not to mention who knows what else is happening on the inside - but hey, youre thin and dont touch that red meat stuff! I seriously hope I just missed the sarcasm in this post, but somehow I doubt it...
     
  18. minorthreat

    minorthreat Member

    Jan 1, 2001
    NYC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I never said it was exactly the smartest course of action, but it seems to be working for the time being. Of course, I'm 23, so I also realize that it'll catch up with me and bite me in the ass before long.
     
  19. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    fine... are you allergic to doing something about it before it becomes a crisis? or to put it in your terms, should we wait until the gun barrel is in our nose on this one? how about crisis prevention, is that ok?
     
  20. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    The thing people dont understand is alot of this is genetic. There are 3 different bodytypes (ectomorph, mesomorph, endomorph.)

    Ectos are generally skinny, and have metabolisms that resemble a raging furnace. They can eat whatever they want and "get away with murder" when it comes to dieting. They simply dont have to.

    Meso's are in the middle. slightly stockier.
    Endos are the "bulky," slow metabolism people out there who have a hard time keeping off weight.

    So my point is some people are dealt a better more manageable hand than others and this has a lot to do with "success" of weight control. I am not excusing laziness, but there are plenty of people who try to lose weight, and the results arent obvious..


    effort doesnt always = success in this realm..
     
  21. oman

    oman Member

    Jan 7, 2000
    South of Frisconsin
    Me exactly. And my big bones won't let me go any lower.

    (and I figured Matt for a short fingered tard with a Napolean complex.)
     
  22. oman

    oman Member

    Jan 7, 2000
    South of Frisconsin
    I hope to hell you started humming "Lip Up Fatty".

    [​IMG]
     
  23. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    I don't know that one, so I stuck with the classic "Baby Elephant Walk."
     
  24. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    My obese secretary was complaining about having to do a little walking during the MTA strike, even saying "And I'm handicapped." I so much wanted to yell at her, "You're not handicapped - you're just FAT! You didn't lose a leg in a combine accident. You didn't take shrapnel to the lungs in Nam. You're simply disgustingly obese! Maybe if you had ever tried walking before today, you wouldn't be that way now!"

    That should be the medical term, by the way. Not 'morbidly obese', but 'disgustingly obese'. Let's call it what it is.
     
  25. oman

    oman Member

    Jan 7, 2000
    South of Frisconsin
    Any thread that keeps reminding me of hot tub Kathy Bates in "About Schmidt" can't be all bad.
     

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