Obama Failure Thread Part V

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  1. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
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    Trolling.
     
  2. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    Not my argument to make.
     
  3. Kobranzilla

    Kobranzilla Member

    Sep 6, 2001
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    GFY
     
    chad repped this.
  4. minerva

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    the argument has already been made and supported.
    I'm not asking you to make an argument.
    I'm asking you to stop trolling and rehashing things that have been addressed before and asking for links that have been provided before.
     
  5. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    My mistake. I must have missed them. My understanding was that President Obama was the failure in the talks. At least that I think John Boehner accused President Obama in Bob Woodwards book.

    Just looking for some clarification. That is all.
     
  6. minerva

    minerva Member+

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    of course you missed them. your mistake was in getting your "news" form the likes of Limbaugh and Hanity.
     
  7. Schapes

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    Aug 20, 2001
    I am just curious - no one responded to this post is it my understanding that President Obama fails to understand that the amount of debt the US has doesn't matter.

    Is President Obama correct in that failed understanding?
     
  8. Yoshou

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    You most certainly did not miss them. You freaking found one of them and posted it to refute the link I provided.
     
  9. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

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    That's based on the Dutch model, right?
     
  10. Schapes

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    Aug 20, 2001
    My apologies to you. I must have forgot. With all the excitement of the election - I just don't remember that. Again, please accept my apology if that is the case.

    However, I would like to be reminded if it is not too much trouble. If it is too much trouble, I completely understand you are busy.
     
  11. Dr. Wankler

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    Trolling.
     
  12. Barbara

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    Holy god, but you're ridiculous. Damn that stupid "show ignored content button."
     
  13. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    Holy crap, now that you've gone all capslocky on our asses, I see that you're absolutely right. If only I could have my vote back.

    Resistance is futile.
     
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  14. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    Absolutely not. Just want to be educated. Want to hear the opposite view.
     
  15. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
     
  16. phats_away

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    Jul 28, 2001
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    so do they compromise or do they double down?
     
  17. Yoshou

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    I'm not sure why I'm doing this, but here is the link I provided:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/magazine/obama-vs-boehner-who-killed-the-debt-deal.html

    And here is the link you provided:
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/04/matt-bai-debt-deal-collapse-obama-boeher
     
  18. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
  19. minerva

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    I think they will compromise. they don't have any reason to be obstructionist at this point. Obama has been elected to a 2nd term. he's not eligible for a 3rd term. might as well work together and bring something home to their constituents so they have something positive to run on in 2 years. the american people have made it clear that they want compromise and bipartisanship. they want the parties to work together. no sense in being obstructionist at this point, as long as Obama's agenda is fairly moderate (which I think it will be) and they don't have to defend themselves in 2 years against a challenger saying they voted for socialism or some such nonsense.
     
  20. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    I think like Barack has doubled down - the Republicans will double down.

    They will continue to press on his failures in Benghazi. Not giving the American people answers to the Obama's administration failures in Libya.

    Also press him on Fast and Furious. Another Obama failure not giving the family of the killed border patrol agent any answers.

    The President has to come to the Republicans. When Sequestration takes effect - it will be Serena's an Obama failure. Unemployment goes up to 9.1 percent. GDP 1.7 instead of 2.2.

    People won't blame the Republicans.

    President Obama's legacy is at stake.
     
  21. minerva

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    I think most GOP reps will be more concerned with their own reelection than with Obama's legacy.
     
  22. Dr. Wankler

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    Trolling.
     
  23. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    The reason to be obstructionist is so they can be re-elected in two years. If they don't make Obama fail - like he has failed in his first term - their constituents won't be happy unless they stand up to the President to make him fail as he did in his first term.

    High unemployment.
    High gas prices.
    Perpetuated Afghanistan wars.
    Failed to reduce debt.
    Failed to reduce defecit.
     
  24. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    Exactly - they need to make sure President Obama fails - as he has in his first term. That way they can go back to their constituents and show they have stood up to the failed Obama presidency.

    Failure of a first term promising the stimulus, if passed, would keep unemployment under eight percent. It approached nearly ten. A failure.
     
  25. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    Absolutely not - President Obama will fail because he won't move to the center - he wasn't in the center in his first term which was a failure for him.

    Failure of a first term due to promising to cut the defecit by the end of his first term in half.
     

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