NYT with more MLS salary info

guamster · Jul 13, 2005

Onionsack said:

Well I know the kids in San Jose that are under dev deals get a housing per diem..in that they are grouped up and live as roomates in an apartment provided by the team..nothing fancy. I assume that all the teams have something similar in place as it is immpossible to expect kids making 11-15K to afford to live in cities. In fact I remember the Fire Reserves do the same thing for their players in the summer coming in to play..they hook them up with places to stay..so its not just MLS.
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OPPORTUNITY KNOCKING: DEVELOPMENTAL PLAYERS NOT GETTING RICH, BUT LIVING A DREAM (San Jose Mercury 7/13/05)

To supplement their incomes, Rodriguez and his peers coach youth teams.

``Coaching pays well in this area,'' Fulton said. ``We're not saving money, but we're living fine.''

Fulton shares a four-bedroom townhouse in San Jose with Goldthwaite, Chris Wondolowski and senior player Danny O'Rourke.

Forward Julian Nash lives with his parents in San Leandro. Midfielder Orlando Ramirez lives with the family of one of his teammates from Fresno Pacific University.
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The article makes no mention of Quakes-subsidized housing.

sidefootsitter · Jul 13, 2005

kpaulson said:

It's not a statement you can categorically disagree with. To the extent that young players are motivated by perks that older players get but may not be earning, it works. If they are not so motivated because they do not believe the league will treat them similarly when they are old, it won't work. Loyalty to older employees is viewed as disappearing everywhere, but still people in every profession are willing to work hard when young in order to get perks granted to more senior people on the basis of past performance. Looking at the contracts granted to many older players, I think you see at least some evidence that this is still the case.
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I don't mind some loyalty but this is the case where it may be hurting the league.

Look, the data suggests that MLS teams are frugal. But, when you voluntarily submit to a ~ $2M cap, you have to abide by an internal pay structure. Compare this with any business. You come to your boss and say, "The company down the street is offering me a 50% raise." Your boss's options are to show you the door or to make a counteroffer. If he does make a counteroffer, it'll be within his company's pay scale, not within the other firm's.

And this exists in soccer as well. MLS, at some point, be it with Mathis, Wolff, Donovan or Armas, has to say to the guy's agent, "Congrats on getting your client an excellent deal. At a date when your demands are within our framework, do not hesitate to give us a call."

The best way is to get something in return. The worst is to overpay.

Rommul · Jul 13, 2005

Onionsack said:

Well I know the kids in San Jose that are under dev deals get a housing per diem..in that they are grouped up and live as roomates in an apartment provided by the team..nothing fancy. I assume that all the teams have something similar in place as it is immpossible to expect kids making 11-15K to afford to live in cities. In fact I remember the Fire Reserves do the same thing for their players in the summer coming in to play..they hook them up with places to stay..so its not just MLS.
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I think in another thread a quakes fan stated that subsidized housing doesn't exist in San Jose.

He also said a these dev players get paid only druing the season at the end of which they are out of contract and play through camp without a contract. The ones the team wants to keep are re-signed at the end of camp.