NYRB Hire, then Fire Youth Development Coach [Merged]

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by viper, May 11, 2007.

  1. viper

    viper New Member

    Jun 7, 2000
    Paramus, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is and interview with Jeff Agoos after the short article on Mr. Simoniants' appointment. Agoos dances around the questions about Savarese but does have this to say (regarding Simoniants):

    I guess Savarese's goal for the Academy wasn't to develop players for the first team (which I find hard to believe).

    New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR
     
  2. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    **Pet Peeve Alert**

    There is no such country as "The Former Soviet Union". Can they not simply say what country he's from? I mean, it's been more than 15 years since the collapse of the USSR. Would they say he was from the "Former British Empire" if he was from India?
     
  3. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    The most I got form Goose's account was that they were building a new building. I guess Gio didn't fit the building.

    I didn't realize he loomed that large.
     
  4. USMNT

    USMNT New Member

    Oct 28, 2006
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    Repost from elsewhere:


    This interview isn't very impressive.

    Goose says that the most influential question/answer posed to and received from the new coach was:

    Q: "What is your goal?"

    A: "To develop players for the first team."

    Isn't this darned obvious? What was he going to say?..."To have a good time."

    I could have given him that answer and been selected, apparently.

    I would have hoped that a club with RB's ambitions would have interviewed coaches from Ajax, PSV, etc. to come in and establish a world class youth philosophy and system. Give the youth coaches and scouts 20% of any transfer fees or senior team equivalents of developed players, and let them go wild in an area with a population of 20 million plus.

    As far as the new guy being an administrator rather than the coaching director, you're not going to be able to bring in any top level youth coaches unless they're the head guy.

    Color me skeptical and disappointed about a former Soviet player who coached in Moldova and has ties to ODP.
     
  5. DiamondsYank

    DiamondsYank New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    NYC Metro Area
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    While I do agree that establishing a top-notch youth academy is a wonderful thing, what would it accomplish in the current system? The idea of youth academies is still in its infancy stage in MLS. When MLS hands down the rule that you get to keep your products, then I might be a little more enthusiastic about investing in the youth system.

    Anyone know what Gio's up to now, btw?
     
  6. pooh

    pooh Member

    Mar 6, 2003
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    MLS did hand that rule down...
     
  7. DiamondsYank

    DiamondsYank New Member

    Apr 28, 2004
    NYC Metro Area
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    I thought it was still in the works, but not official?
     
  8. viper

    viper New Member

    Jun 7, 2000
    Paramus, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    It is official but (I feel) it's rather limited. I believe the rule is you can graduate 2 players per year who have been in the youth academy a minimum of 2 years. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  9. j1mbr0wn

    j1mbr0wn Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Newark, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    Just curious here:

    If the fellow came to the US from the USSR, where is he from? The USSR was a country at one time, so if he came from there, it would be correct in stating that he was from the former USSR.

    Another example: George Washington was not born in the USA, since there was no USA when he was born.
     
  10. Real Big Johnson

    Real Big Johnson New Member

    Jan 28, 2005
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    I am a long time reader, but first time poster. I have followed the MetroStars/Redbull player development system since it's very humble begining. I feel that this is one area in which the organization has surpassed every other team in the league. What concerns me with the this new hire is that I remember correctly, Armen Simonatis when he was a coach for the youth academy. If memory serves me correctly he was never the Head Coach for the reserve team...I believe Richard Williams was the first head coach and then Antonio Mesa was the second. I do know that Armen Simonatis was the assistant to Mr. Mesa. I think Redbull may want to do some checking on the validity and honesty of there new hires resume, as I do believe that the truth may have been stretched here a bit! I hate to see a "resume scandal" harm the only silver lining that this organization has to date.
     
  11. lakaix15

    lakaix15 New Member

    Mar 28, 2007
    USA
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    wait wait, i heard that a player from the youth dev has to go through the mls draft to get into the mls or a mls team....... is that true

    so really RBNY wouldnt get any of there kids if they were selected b4 RBNY

    so why have a system like this
     
  12. RSwenson

    RSwenson Member

    Feb 1, 2000
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    nope... players can now "graduate" from the youth to senior teams... it is a limited number and they have to be in the program for 2 years, I believe...

    Of course, this does not prevent the MLS teams from losing players to overseas clubs (or even USL teams, for that matter) without compensation... but it is a step in the right direction...

    rand
     
  13. lkgf09

    lkgf09 Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    I've heard on a pretty good source that Armen Simoniants has already been fired. You all may be skepical but I heard it from a very close friend of Armen Simoniants himself. I don't know why he would be fired after veing on the job for two minutes? I just hope I'm right so I don't look like an idiot for passing on this stuff.
     
  14. DoctorK

    DoctorK New Member

    Jan 8, 2002
    NorthBank, Riverbend
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    Fired for lying about his credentials.
     
  15. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
  16. j1mbr0wn

    j1mbr0wn Member

    Jun 3, 2005
    Newark, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Sex, lies and videotape, Redbulls fire new Academy youth director.

    This sounds like an episode of Dream Team. Was there an angry but really hot woman involved?
     
  17. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    Re: Sex, lies and videotape, Redbulls fire new Academy youth director.

    :rolleyes: :p :D
     
  18. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Sex, lies and videotape, Redbulls fire new Academy youth director.

    and i thought there was sex in this :mad:
     
  19. viper

    viper New Member

    Jun 7, 2000
    Paramus, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    Good call, brother!
     
  20. Metrosuccess

    Metrosuccess Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Sex, lies and videotape, Redbulls fire new Academy youth director.

    Why again did they fire Gio????? This was one mistake they made that I don't get. Gio bled red/black.
     
  21. jbeall

    jbeall New Member

    Jan 18, 2002
    NJ by way of GA
    Re: Sex, lies and videotape, Redbulls fire new Academy youth director.

    Red Bull changed the color scheme, and so Gio didn't fit anymore.
     
  22. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR


    You da man! Take a bow at tomorrow's game. :D
     
  23. GIO17

    GIO17 Member

    Nov 29, 1998
    Re: Sex, lies and videotape, Redbulls fire new Academy youth director.

    They thought they were getting someone with better credentials than Gio. Sadly they were mistaken and he put the wool over their eyes. He knew old Metro FO people would spot him as a fake, but since these are new people in RBNY FO. He thought he can get it done the easy way.

    Sadly Gio is in Brooklyn now with the Knights.
     
  24. MetroFever

    MetroFever Member+

    Jun 3, 2001
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Re: Sex, lies and videotape, Redbulls fire new Academy youth director.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    A suggestion.....make sure Agoos has nothing to do with hiring coaches within the club and make sure deGrandpre has nothing to do with any future TV contract negotiations.
     
  25. lkgf09

    lkgf09 Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: From Soccer America: New Red Bulls youth boss hails from former USSR

    I've found out some more details about the situation. It seems that after Armen was interviewed, they said that they would reach some sort of a decision in 4 months but they were so impressed with his interview they gave him the job two weeks after the interview. I actually had thought he was the reserve team coach under Octavio Zambrano. During that time I thought he was the reserve coach so I don't think that he would be lying about it for so long. But if the Red Bulls say he lied I would have to believe them. The funny thing is that he was part of the reason that Octavio Zambrano went to Moldova for a coaching job because Armen was a coach there as well and that's funny to me because that's the only place Zambrano could find a coaching job.
     

Share This Page