NY Times::Stirring up the Adu pot re:trade to Scum

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  1. Mimir19

    Mimir19 Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Buffalo, NY
    Ivan Gazidis has said the Salary Cap is non-existent now.. There are guidelines.. But if a side wants to break the bank to pay for someone, they are now allowed to do it (Eg. Freddy and Landon)..

    As of this season, the salary cap is a non-issue.
     
  2. michael greene

    Oct 31, 2002
    Here are some of the other insightful sports stories the NY Times must be working on:


    Knicks Covet Duncan
    If There's a Season, Rangers Really Like Iginla
    USTA Trying to Convince Federer to Become an American

    You read it here first.
     
  3. aartef redded

    aartef redded Red Card

    Apr 25, 2005
    Great post- repped
     
  4. MattMathai

    MattMathai BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 28, 2004
    Annapolis
    I hadn't heard that.

    I must have been counting the number of times people didn't pass the ball to Freddy.

    I hear Gerrard is on the market, and his acquisition would fit the definition of salary cap as mere guideline.
     
  5. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    Freddy signed a six-year deal, which means that he will still be under contract to MLS when he turns 18. Therefore, MLS will get money when he goes to Europe.
     
  6. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
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    DC United
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    United States
    You can't be serious


    These guys can't get on the field for THE CREW

    Szetela can't get on the field for U-20's with college players in front of him

    I'd rather trade Moreno or Gomez than Adu. That's right. I know Adu will be better next year than he is this year. There is nothing wrong with Adu's play, he's just not as good as Gomez right now and playing 2 #10's doesn't work very well.
     
  7. AB727

    AB727 New Member

    Mar 24, 2004
    Maryland
    I can't imagine them trading anything of value for Adu. It's all just a public flogging of Nowak - saying they could do a better job. Yeah, right.

    And I personally have no desire to cheer for Amado Guevara.
     
  8. ACGreen

    ACGreen Member

    May 12, 2004
    São Paulo, Brasil
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    --other--
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    United States
    I didn't say deny that MLS would be compensated. DCU's remuneration is something completely different.
     
  9. revelation

    revelation Member+

    Dec 17, 1998
    FC St. Pauli
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    Oh, see I love to cheer for Guevara...to break a leg, lose his head, and generally suffer ill...

    :)
     
  10. John_Harkes_6

    John_Harkes_6 New Member

    Mar 29, 2000
    Baltimore, MD.
    DC gets a portion (10%??) of the transfer fee to use as an allocation
     
  11. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
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    Oct 4, 2001
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    The only way I'll cheer for Guevarra is if he gives his MVP trophy to it's rightful owner. :mad:
     
  12. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    Guevara? Guevara?

    You want that head case for the next 2or 3 season? I'm sure he'd love Nowak. And if you get Guevara you have the same problem that DCU has now...what do you do with Gomez? Or Moreno?

    United's problem isn't Adu's ability, it is that you have 3 guys who play roughly the same position.
     
  13. rtiemens

    rtiemens Member

    Aug 16, 1999
    Virginia
    Right on, and duly repped. It has been amazing to see that this year the NY Times have almost completely ignored the Metrostars. More than once I have noticed that even when the metro have had a game, the only soccer coverage in the NYT is of the European leagues. Now that Europe is over, the metro get some ink, but apparently only by means of gimmicks like this Adu non-story.
     
  14. Liverpool_SC

    Liverpool_SC Member

    Jun 28, 2002
    Upstate, SC
    And if I recall correctly, there was speculation that Adu got a minimum transfer fee clause that would go into effect after the third year of the contract. So unless he really tanks from a potential standpoint - his transfer fee is already negotiated.
     
  15. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
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    DC United
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    United States
    That's IF he wants to go to the team making an offer above the minimum (assuming that there is one in his contract), and if there is no bidding going on between more than one team. Remember, Freddy get's a cut of any transfer fee, so I high fee is in his interests.
     
  16. aartef redded

    aartef redded Red Card

    Apr 25, 2005
    Well then let freddy play forward like on the U-17's
     
  17. Liverpool_SC

    Liverpool_SC Member

    Jun 28, 2002
    Upstate, SC
    Sure. But if a team pays a higher fee, they may change the wage demands. The way it frequently works out when there is a minimum fee clause is that the team whose contract he accepts pays the minimum fee and makes it up to the player by boosting his wages and giving him a signing on fee (from which his agent would get a cut depending on his arrangement with the player). That way, the team pays less transfer fees and less of the agent's fees.

    There have been many recent examples of elite players leaving for much lower transfer fees out of a preference for making it up in wages and one-time payments (Harry Kewell, Michael Owen, etc). Granted contract expiration dates play a big role in determining the amount of the eventual transfer fee - but this phenomenon goes to show that even relatively loyal players don't seem too concerned about making sure the club they are leaving gets the highest possible transfer fee when they move.

    The reason a player (and agent) want a minimum fee is as an out-clause - to guarantee that they can move to a higher level club when they want to. It is not generally regarded as a service to the current club, because the player usually believes that the amount of the minimum fee is going to be below his actual value at the time he anticipates it will be "activated".
     
  18. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    Um.....no. In the U-17s, that worked because U-17 defenders aren't the size of MLS defenders (except for the Sierra Leone guys). Whenever he has played as a forward he has been ineffective.
     
  19. Th4119

    Th4119 Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    If Adu needs to play with less media attention, start choosing players from the KC roster you'd like here. Heck, we already know he likes the parties out there anyway, it's probably a done deal already.

    Dallas would work too, but he's already told them to suck it once in his career and I don't see that changing now.
     
  20. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh right, maximizing the fees and his salry is dependent on there being a bidding war, basically.
     
  21. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    See Tim, I told you it was the former.

    :)
     
  22. aartef redded

    aartef redded Red Card

    Apr 25, 2005
    New team, new results
     
  23. TEConnor

    TEConnor New Member

    Feb 22, 1999
    ??

    Again Aartef, I think you must be joking. I watched all four of the U-17 games. I recall that Fred lined up in midfield for each of the games that he started. Only in the second half of the final game did he play as a forward (and perhaps for the final few minutes of another where he subbed in against Egypt). The problem with using the U-17s as an example for anything is that Fred pretty much did not shine at any position, so it sort of undermines the force of your argument. Unless you were joking, of course.

    Tim
     
  24. TEConnor

    TEConnor New Member

    Feb 22, 1999

    So what is Fred's magic number? $10 Million?

    Tim
     
  25. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    Same moronic post.
     

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