News: NWSL general news and info

Discussion in 'NWSL' started by Blaze20, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Welcome to BigSoccer. Not many new accounts these days.

    One size fits all solutions are generally a bad idea. There aren't any good "10k" stadiums in the NYC area that would be appropriate for an NWSL team. Red Bull Arena is really hard to match for both the fans, the participants, and even the viewing audience.

    You are correct that huge swathes of empty seats can be problematic, but then so is the sight of rows of outhouses in the gravel parking lot clearly visible on a broadcast of the game, and asking professional players to bus offsite for a shower after the game.
     
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  2. FawcettFan14

    FawcettFan14 Member+

    Mar 19, 2004
    Colorado
    If Sky Blue can consistently average between 5-10,000 fans per game, one option is to limit seating to the lower bowl. I could not find a specific seat breakdown between the upper and lower bowls, but I imagine it's about half the total stadium capacity of 25,000. Either this, or restrict seating to one side of the stadium, the one visible to television cameras. I tend to like option #1, as it creates a better atmosphere for the fans actually attending.

    Between the upgraded facilities, being closer to NYC, public transit access, and new league rules allowing the signing of higher profile players, hopefully Sky Blue can reverse the years-long damage done to their image and attract top talent again. It's not good for the league to be dominated by the same four playoff teams, we need teams like Washington, Houston and Sky Blue to make progress in the standings.
     
  3. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Right. If there was a decent 10k venue available anywhere in the NYC area, Cosmos would've moved there long ago.
     
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  4. tiaotnszn

    tiaotnszn New Member

    Chicago Red Stars
    United States
    Nov 13, 2019
    It's funny because there might actually be a decent stadium being built now. Queensboro FC just joined USL and apparently they are going to be playing at a new 7500 seat stadium on the campus of York College. The funny part is that that stadium might have been perfect for right now, but maybe when it opens in 2021 it might actually be too small if Sky Blue are able to grow in Red Bull Arena.
     
  5. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Hopefully it is too small. Right now they average about 8k attendance when going to Red Bull. Lets see if they can sustain or progress further.
     
  6. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I still find it doubtful that any college stadium is being built for modern professional first division fan and player expectations.

    Even the brand new Soccer and Lacrosse Stadium at UNC wouldn't be what I would expect for a fully professional club with regards to player facilities, throw in parking, seating, concessions, and merchandising expectations, and I would have to see it to believe it.
     
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  7. WoSoFan

    WoSoFan Member

    Dec 23, 2017
    There will be question marks as to whether both Chicago, with the loss of Sam Kerr, and Seattle, with having to replace Vlakto, will be able to repeat. So maybe we can see a couple of new teams in the play-offs in 2020.
     
  8. nick p

    nick p Member

    Jul 11, 2009
    Baltimore Maryland
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    permanently moving to Red Bull arena next year. Amazing what can happen with a GM that actually cares Keep up the great work Alyse LaHue
     
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  9. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe my calculations are off, but following the latest announcements from Washington and Sky Blue, it appears to me that nearly two-thirds of NWSL games in 2020 (76 of 120) will be played in MLS stadiums or former MLS stadiums (Bridgeview). And that's assuming that Sacramento joins for 2020, in which case no NWSL games would be played in an MLS stadium there in 2020. If the lineup of teams remains the same as this year, then the percentage in MLS stadiums rises above two-thirds.
     
  10. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    So.... Are we talking about OL buying a controlling interest in the Reign?
     
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  11. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1286 lil_one, Nov 25, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2019
    There was so much talk about OL coming in, and now that its actually happening, it sure is quiet around here.

    I, for one, did not expect this to be how OL came into the NWSL, but OL is an amazing organization with deep pockets. So, I think the investment is good for the NWSL, but I'm a bit sad to see another "independent" go down (but in a much better way than, say, the Boston Breakers). However, I'm happy to see that the Predmores will still be involved. I still have a lot of questions though on how overseas ownership will play out, but for that, we'll have to wait and see.

    Also for those wondering about more details, there's a bit more on the Reign's website.
     
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  12. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Well, there's the actual Reign 2019 thread in the Reign subforum, sooo....
     
  13. Tracer

    Tracer Member

    Apr 22, 2016
    New York
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
  14. Tracer

    Tracer Member

    Apr 22, 2016
    New York
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
  15. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is just plain dumb. You don't maintain a relationship by tweeting that way. You communicate directly and privately.

    Riley is a good coach, but he's too enamored of himself.
     
  16. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    Does appear as if everything will be known by the end of the week. It does seem like the owners are being kept out of the loop right now.
     
  17. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Actually the owners are the ones in negotiation since they represent the league; the article directly says it's their initial offer that USSF rejected. Kept out of the loop are coaches and other staff, it sounds like. Arnim in particular yesterday sent out a not-so-cryptic tweet saying "reporters should get multiple sources" - which to me sounds like he knew something the Murray got wrong about what's going on.
     
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  18. Smallchief

    Smallchief Member+

    Oct 27, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    This being the long, cold, hard winter while the NWSL is on break, I decided to look up the NWSL players who have appeared in the most matches since the inception of the league, 7 seasons ago. The max number of games (not counting playoffs) a player in which a player could appear is 156.

    Here's the list:

    Nairn.............. 150 matches
    Barnes .......... 149
    Zerboni.......... 147
    Mathias......... 142
    McDonald......135
    Barnhardt...... 135
    Long...............133
    Reynolds........129
    Sinclair...........128
    K. Mewis........124
     
  19. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Are there players who could only join the league 4-6 seasons ago that have higher appearance percentages?
     
  20. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Old-timers in MLS used to refer to the "Ralston Line" (itself derived from MLB's Mendoza Line).

    Steve Ralston was good enough to start for any team, but not good enough to miss notable minutes getting called up for the USMNT for qualifiers, Gold Cups, World Cups, or anything else that would keep him off the MLS field.

    McCall Zerboni fits that bill perfectly, and until France 2019, Jessica McDonald would as well.

    (The Mendoza Line was something else. Mario Mendoza is a place-holder for the point at which your hitting is so poor that you can't be a starter. His 9 year batting average was .215. Typically anyone batting under .200 is often referred to as being below the Mendoza Line).
     
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  21. Smallchief

    Smallchief Member+

    Oct 27, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I havent calculated percentage of appearances, but the 2 players who havent played in the NWSL all 7 seasons, but have appeared in most matches are (unless I err):

    Brooks....... 123 matches
    Yanez......... 123
     
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  22. Reign Man

    Reign Man Member

    SEATTLE REIGN!
    Sep 28, 2016
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Player matches portion seasons last played
    Brittany Taylor 106 96% 5 2017
    Keelin Winters 83 97% 4 2016
    Leigh Ann Robinson Brown65 98% 3 2015
    Katy Freels 65 98% 3 2015
    Kim Little 63 98% 3 2016
    Kendall Fletcher 62 97% 3 2016
    Gunny Jonsdottir 48 100% 2 2019
    Nikki Marshall 46 100% 2 2014
    Andi Sullivan 46 96% 2 2019
    Bethany Balcer 24 100% 1 2019
    Sam Staab 24 100% 1 2019
    Nikki Krzysik 23 96% 1 2014
    Vicky Losada 23 96% 1 2014
    Paige Monaghan 23 96% 1 2019
    Kia McNeill 21 95% 1 2013


    My calculations for possible matches are by full season,
    so doesn't include players who joined or left mid-season
    (although that is on my list to do).
    The most notable member of that club is the amazing
    Jen Buczkowski who played every possible match from
    league inception to retirement for financial reasons 5 games
    into the 2016 season -- 76 consecutive matches.
     
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  23. Reign Man

    Reign Man Member

    SEATTLE REIGN!
    Sep 28, 2016
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Yes, those are the top two.
    Ohai is the player with the most games in league history to never
    play in a playoff game.

    There are 24 players with more than 90 games but less than 7 seasons.
    (games played, seasons, player)
    123 6 Amber Brooks
    123 6 Beverly Goebel Yáñez
    117 6 Emily Menges
    115 6 Vanessa DiBernardo
    114 6 Kealia Ohai
    110 5 Sofia Huerta
    108 6 Abby Erceg
    108 6 Estelle Johnson
    106 5 Brittany Taylor
    106 5 Danielle Colaprico
    106 5 Sarah Killion
    104 6 Becca Moros
    102 5 Arin Gilliland Wright
    102 6 Kristen Edmonds
    99 5 Jaelene Hinkle
    99 6 Meghan Klingenberg
    99 5 Lynn Williams
    98 5 Megan Oyster
    97 5 Abby Dahlkemper
    97 6 Julie King
    94 6 Julie Johnston Ertz
    93 5 Desiree Scott
    92 6 Taylor Lytle
    91 6 Samantha Johnson
     
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  24. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
     
  25. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I mean... we knew USSF wanted them to keep working on finding a commissioner, and scuttlebutt was it wouldn't be her... But damn that's still a somewhat weird (and definitely oddly timed) move. o_O
     
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