News: NWSL general news and info

Discussion in 'NWSL' started by Blaze20, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly, I don't care what MLS is doing. I don't think they have much relevance to the women. That said, I'd like to know what kind of crossover in fan attendance there is.

    Yeah, that's where I am. I think the heat is worse than the cold. Additionally, I wonder how much those bubble-type practice fields are possible so they can train in relative warmth (of course, these are also probably effective to make relative cool in the summer).
     
  2. GoodHands

    GoodHands Member+

    AC Milan
    United States
    Jul 17, 2024

    I know there is some, maybe a lot maybe a little, depending on location and fan appeal which varies based on too many factors to even try to list. By playing in the same seasons both are either helped or hurt by simple exposure. If I lived in a city that had both available and I physically could i would probably attend both unless one or the other priced themselves out of my price range. If i had to choose most probably I would choose watching the NWSL over MLS as MLS' quality, relative to the rest of the soccer world.

    When there are two entity's vying for the same dollar it is not always clear why one gets chosen over the other. When I was growing up there were two American football teams playing in Dallas. One, the Dallas Cowboys (NFL) and the other The Dallas Texans (AFL) (moved later on to KC and became the Chiefs).
    The Cowboys were absolutely horrible and had several seasons with only 3 wins or fewer while the Texans were always playing for the league championship. But the Cowboys outdrew the Texans by a factor of 4 or more. (They both played in the Cotton Bowl)
    To this day i really do not understand why that was but it was. When they played on the same day the upper deck of the Cotton Bowl was only opened for the Cowboys but it was closed for the Texans.

    People make choices for reasons that often are almost incomprehensible. But in this case I think that only about 10-15% of MLS fans attend NWSL matches and the other way around.
    The main reason I think it matters some is that both MLS and NWSL both can expose people to soccer and, in the USA, that exposure is needed to grow the sport.

    I recently (last season) gave MLS a chance by watching at least one match every weekend and that has made me decide that I have been correct in distaining what passes for soccer in MLS. BTW: I think that the HORRIBLE refereeing in MLS is the primary reason the matches are so boring.

    But i now believe that MLS and NWSL should be completely separated as any attempt to overlap or combine operations hurt both, NWSL more than MLS. But they do effect each other.
     
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  3. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I'm absolutely certain there is crossover, but it would be interesting to see some data. I'd also be interested in seeing how many NWSL fans also attend WNBA games. Or specifically watch women's sports. Man, I'm starting to go down a rabbit hole that is PhD dissertation level.

    I get this. Grew up in LA
    Dodgers v. Angels.
    Lakers v. Clippers.
    Raider v. Rams (when I was there).
    I understand some of the reasons for attendance being higher for the Dodgers and Lakers, but it was still a choice.

    I agree both this.
     
  4. Reign Man

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    SEATTLE REIGN!
    Sep 28, 2016
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    My feeling exactly
     
  5. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Missed this earlier. Happy Pride Month (not, not just Orlando ;) )

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  6. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  7. Allende72

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    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 17, 2008
    Wilmington, NC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.thecutback.com/p/exclusive-nwsl-change-high-impact-player-rule-sam-kerr

    Exclusive: NWSL set to change High Impact Player rule, opening door for more star signings
    Flo Lloyd-Hughes
    May 13, 2026

    Because Sam Kerr (and apparently other wanted players) couldn't meet any of the criteria of the original HIP (Rodman) Rule, the League is going to remove the criteria and allow it to be applied to any player!

    So the League doesn't do basic homework to know who are the world-class players it wants to attract and gets surprised by who its new rule excludes.

    From the article:

    The current iteration of the rule also limits clubs from offering HIP contracts to several high-profile players, including Sam Kerr, who is expected to head to the NWSL when her contract with Chelsea expires at the end of the season.

    I wonder who else might be considering coming here.
     
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  8. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was a hastily thrown together rule and it's not a surprise that it needs revision.
     
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  9. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  10. Allende72

    Allende72 Member

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 17, 2008
    Wilmington, NC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    However many players that would have qualified under the original standards, there could have been twice as many that would have similar value and the League has come to realize this. Sam Kerr is a good example having been injured for the better part of a couple of seasons would have kept her off, but she's still valued by Teams who know what she's done and still capable of doing.

    Bunny Shaw got #6 in the ESPN list for 2024 would that have been good enough?
     
  11. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mead is supposed to be going to Citeh. Getting her to the US would be a major coup.
     
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  12. Allende72

    Allende72 Member

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 17, 2008
    Wilmington, NC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. cleansheetbsc

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    Mar 17, 2004
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  14. Number007

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    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    Personally, don't think she suits NWSL at all.
     
  15. Allende72

    Allende72 Member

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 17, 2008
    Wilmington, NC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  16. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a way to build the game downward. Nice.
     
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