News: NWSL general news and info

Discussion in 'NWSL' started by Blaze20, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lack of money?
     
  2. Number007

    Number007 Member+

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    Sure, but is the solution fixing costs or finding investors that can? Feels like there are pros and cons of both. I wonder why Emily Fox is leaving the NWSL?
     
  3. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    It's interesting how you're worried about the hyphen when apparently you can't even spell the rest of his name right! :p
     
  4. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mostly cons, tbh. There isn't an infinite number of investors and they aren't all equal. It is literally impossible to create a situation where every team is equally funded in an uncapped world. There is a direct correlation between a team's salary budget and their points and there is a direct correlation between points and attendance. As an example, Leicester City was bouncing around the lower divisions until they were bought by King Power and their CEO dumped a ton of cash into them. Their improved performance resulted in attendance growing, especially after they won the Premier League. When King Power's CEO died in the helicopter crash, King Power's investment in Leicester City dropped and the club ended up being relegated last year. There were obviously other things involved in Leicester's Premier League win, but their rise in leagues and standings was directly related to the amount of money that King Power dropped into the team.

    The claim that a league just needs to get better investors is largely a red herring. Investors aren't going to be interested in every market equally and the end result tends to be that the rich gets richer and the rest just turn into also rans.
     
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  5. Number007

    Number007 Member+

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    #3080 Number007, Jan 11, 2024
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2024
    I agree, but there are also cons of the capped world. Is it fair to say that the top talent will tend to go to the highest bidders? Does that impact quality? Does it matter? I don't know the answer.

    A study was done showing a high correlation between performance and wages. Transfer fees much less so.
     
  6. ytrs

    ytrs Member+

    Jan 24, 2018
    Maybe she wants to try living in another country while she is young? Arsenal is out of the Champions league so she will not be playing in that this spring. We don't know how long she signed for.
     
  7. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Sounds like PRO is about to strike, which could easily put a wrench in the start of the MLS season because having no refs would be a serious issue. This actually won't affect NWSL because, as I only just learned today in the Athletic article about this potential strike, all non-MLS professional leagues actually use PRO2, a related but separate organization, who updated their contract successfully the other week.
     
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  8. Justafan17

    Justafan17 New Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    United States
    Feb 11, 2021
    Any intel on when the nwsl schedule will drop?
     
  9. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3084 Yoshou, Jan 22, 2024
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2024
    PRO is the employer, the PSRA is the union that represents PRO referees. So that is why the PSRA can strike with PRO, but not PRO2. Also, PSRA members have authorized the PSRA to strike if a deal isn't met by Jan 31, there will need to be another vote for them to actually go on strike. This is not an uncommon tactic among unions when dealing with an employer that is dragging their feet on negotiations and it frequently does not result in the union actually going on strike.



    Also.. I found out about the existence of Pro2 from your post and thought the strike would impact NWSL as well up until that point. Interesting.. I wonder why there is a Pro2 and why NWSL is under that company and not PRO..
     
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  10. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    PRO2 is the "stepping stone" for referees working to try to break into MLS, and PRO2 is in that way part of the bigger umbrella of PRO. PRO was formed primarily to serve MLS, and PRO2 is about finding that next generation of referees. Some referees stay at PRO2 for their whole career, but others "move up" to PRO.

    As of a few years ago, the PSRA actually represents both PRO and PRO2 referees. It's one union, but 2 CBA's (one for PRO and one for PRO2), but PRO2 referees don't vote on PRO issues in the PSRA and vice versa (in some ways, its like 2 unions, but not). If the PSRA does strike, it's about the PRO CBA specifically, so while it won't affect PRO2 referees who have their own CBA, it's also why you won't see PRO2 referees "cross the picket line."
     
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  11. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s kinda my point. The NWSL is the D1 Women’s league in the US.. Shouldn’t they be covered by PRO, rather than the stepping stone company?
     
  12. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get what you're saying, but regardless of how we feel about it, the men's game is still seen as the "top flight" of soccer worldwide, not just in the US.

    On the practical side, one other reason is the NWSL didn't exist when PRO was formed. Even once the NWSL started, it wasn't referred to as a Division 1 league at first, and even after it was sanctioned as a Division 1 league, I would say in many respects it's not treated that way. (e.g. The standards for being sanctioned "Division 1" for the women line up more with the standards for Division 2 for the men.)
     
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  13. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Several of the USSF standards for ownership, stadiums, etc. for women's D1 soccer is the same as men's D2 soccer. Some women's D1 standards are lower than men's D2. Only MLS/men's D1 has the top tier of requirements.

    Wikipedia is actually useful on this with a table showing the breakdown of each level:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_soccer_league_system#Standards_summary_table

    Maybe a day comes along where there's less of a difference, or at least women's D1 standards are above men's D2, but until then it's not unreasonable for the referee's organization to approach everything below men's D1 as a stepping stone.
     
  14. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    2024 schedule is now out. I'm sure someone will dig more into the details like I would like to do right now, but I'm a bit time-crunched with work, so I'll just highlight the biggest piece of news: No "Decision Day" in 2024 (likely due to NWSL not having the negotiating heft to force four different TV partners to agree to the same time for the final weekend, which is instead going to played out over three days).
     
  15. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Looks like the first match on the opening Saturday is on ABC and it's hosted by KC in their new stadium. That's a smart move on everyone's part.

    I know ION is available on several streaming services, as well as Tubi, but I still hope some of the local OTA channels upgrade over their current 480i broadcast signals.
     
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  16. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meg Linehan at the Athletic takes a look at the schedule, looking at broadcasting and highlighting marquee matches. Honestly, my biggest takeaway from the article is how difficult it could be for some fans to "follow their team." The new broadcast deals should result in an increase in casual fans watching matches, but could definitely make it harder for current fans to keep up with where to watch (and to have all the streaming services they'd need). At least the NWSL+ streaming service is free.
     
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  17. socalkdg

    socalkdg New Member

    Washington Spirit
    United States
    Feb 15, 2023
    If you only pay for Ion and since NWSL+ is free easy to watch 15-20 games of your favorite team.
     
  18. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    USL Super League has been granted D1 status. The question is, will this be legitimate competition for NWSL? Super League doesn't have a salary cap and will play a Fall-Spring schedule, but the teams seem to be less financially backed than NWSL, so salary cap may not be an issue.



    https://theathletic.com/5263900/2024/02/09/usl-super-league-division-sanction/

    USL Super League has teams in Brooklyn, Charlotte, NC, Dallas-Fort Worth, TX, Fort Lauderdale, FL, Lexington, KY, Spokane, WA, Tampa, FL, and Washington, DC.
     
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  19. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    They've also got Palm Beach, Madison, and Jacksonville expected in 2025 an another 6 teams planned. The scheduling gimmick is stupid but D1 women's standards are basically the same as D2 men's. 11 of the current 17 expected teams are being added to existing/planned USLC/USL1 clubs.
     
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  20. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. Talk about your rapid expansion... It'll be interesting to see what happens with the league
     
  21. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yeah, they've got 16 of the clubs listed on the league website, and USL Arkansas is planning a team in the USLC in the spring of 26 and Super League that fall. Jacksonville, Arkansas, and Palm Beach are all expected to come in with a Championship and Super League team.

    It will be really interesting to see what they can do as a league with NWSL taking such a big leap forward financially.
     
  22. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gotta feel sorry for the Spokane team tho.. They are he only one in the Western US and with the expansion being primarily in Southeastern US it is only going to get worse. One would think it would have been better for them to wait for the 2 teams in Arizona and team in Oakland to join before they joined.

    [​IMG]
     
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  23. Number007

    Number007 Member+

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    i wonder where the players are going to come from.
     
  24. tiaotnszn

    tiaotnszn Member

    Chicago Red Stars
    United States
    Nov 13, 2019
    To start, probably fringe NWSL players, the best of the W league, and Americans that went abroad.
     
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  25. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It wouldn't surprise me if some of the draft picks that don't make rosters this year end up signing with Super League teams.
     
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