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  1. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am confident that for all of the NWSL teams with MLS siblings, each sibling is a separately incorporated business entity. There would be legitimate business reasons for having the teams separately incorporated (such as to insulate them from each others’ problems). So the employers would be different. Plus, the NWSL players, at least, are not employees of the teams. They are employees of the NWSL, which organizationally is completely separate from MLS. So I do not see an equal pay problem for teams like the Thorns (or Dash or Pride).

    This is different than the USSF, which is a single entity that employs both male and female players.
     
  2. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Just read that Lynn Williams have been traded to KC Current!

     
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  3. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Sadly, all signs from over the weekend seem to be pointing to a rushed sale to Boehly's group. I think the Spirit situation is going to get a whole lot messier before it gets better. Baldwin is setting himself (and the league) up for some lawsuits and/or there's going to be an exodus of players.
     
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  4. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    They just bought a 22 year-old Brazilian striker from Madrid.
     
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  5. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    More on that:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/01/10/beth-wilkinson-washington-spirit/
    Attorney Beth Wilkinson, who recently led the investigation against the Washington Football Team, has joined the fray now on the side of the (17!) minority owners supporting Kang.
    Sounds like multiple people in the NWSL FO (and other team owners?) prefer Boehly over Kang
     
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  6. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #2731 SiberianThunderT, Jan 11, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2022
    HOLD THE PHONE

    TL;DR
    1. Kang bought out Talbott's share to have a higher individual stake than either Baldwin or Lynch, AND
    2. Other minor investors (who were aligned with Kang) converted debt to equity, creating a voting bloc amounting to 52% majority overall

    With a 52% voting majority and the largest individual stakeholder on their side, I don't think a sale needs to occur to keep Kang in control. This group now has the power to control any potential sale, though, so I wonder if they'll use the power to bin Boehly's offer and instead sell *more* of the club to this group.
     
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  7. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I used to work on complex financial transaction contract negotiations. Something I learned the hard way was to never try to force the other side to agree to something on paper that they really and strongly did not agree with. It looks like the two sides in these negotiations are playing hardball with each other (and really dislike each other) and the prevailing party may end up trying to force the other party to agree to an outcome it really cannot stomach. That could be a recipe for disaster. The NWSL needs to be sure whatever deal they end up with is reasonable for all parties involved.
     
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  8. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I mean, you're not wrong... At the same time, I think that the situation escalated past any even-slightly-amicable divorce a long time ago, as all reports in the past month or two have indicated that Baldwin flat-out refused to sell to Kang a long time ago and refuses to work with her at all at this point, simply out of spite. Which, itself, is not a reasonable stance, so it's been pretty much a given that someone was going to get forced out against their will.
     
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  9. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd be interested in what the debt to equity swap is and what would prevent Baldwin from doing the same and putting himself back as the majority owner...
     
  10. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
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  11. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    For the record, the Athletic story has been updated with a few paragraph, basically saying that the pro-Kang group hasn't finished dotting their i's and crossing their t's yet. Actually being an equity owner instead of a debt holder *is* bringing a new owner into the group, so they all have to be vetted and approved by the league, plus Kang newly becoming plurality owner requires its own league approval. The process to do all these has started, but is not yet approved.
     
  12. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Just read that Sofia Jakobsson has joined San Diego Wave!!
     
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  13. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    There's a "Player Moves" thread for posts like this
     
  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This took me a couple of reads to understand, but it looks like an NWSL team will announce they now have a team in USL W League:

     
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  15. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So it is a reserve/development team for a to be announce NWSL team? That seems like a good development for Women's soccer if true.
     
  16. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Omid Namazi was the Red Stars Coach in 2010. He took the team over from Emma Hayes who made a mess of it and turned it around quick. Players loved him from what I remember and so did the fans.

     
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  17. 59Amerinorsk

    59Amerinorsk Member

    Chicago Red Stars
    Norway
    Mar 31, 2017
    Wow! A blast from the past! I liked him. He did not get much of a chance as CRS exited the WPS. I guess I would not mind at all if her got a chance.
     
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  18. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yes, the Red Stars folded after that season and went into the WPSL under Rory.
    So technically if he gets hired, it would have been Omid, followed by Rory and back to Omid.

    We'll see what happens. Nothing final yet as far as I know.
     
  20. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    CBA negotiations seem almost done, as it sounds like everything is lined up except for "the finer details of free agency" and when said provisions go into effect. It sounds like the Player's Union is giving an unofficial deadline of Feb. 1 to get those details ironed out with the league, as players won't report to camp until the CBA is signed.

    https://theathletic.com/news/nwsl-p...bs-without-cba-in-place-sources/6Lq02CrVJBBr/

    The fact that they're into the "finer details of free agency" makes it sound like we are absolutely going to be getting free agency of some kind, so that's definitely a boon. And it make the fact that the Challenge Cup is still a preseason tournament not hurt he players or the league much if things need to get shortened or cancelled before the regular season begins.
     
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  21. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Am I right in thinking that the effect of free agency will depend largely on what the salary cap will be and how it will work?
     
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  22. toad455

    toad455 Member+

    Nov 28, 2005
    it's Racing Louisville.
     
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  23. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain

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