NWSL flavor of the week 2025

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by RalleeMonkey, Mar 13, 2025.

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  1. chirenzhiren

    chirenzhiren Member

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 14, 2021
    #326 chirenzhiren, Nov 15, 2025
    Most fans only remember things happened within 5 seconds of a goal or clear scoring opportunity. Secondly, most fans don't understand intensity and overlooke the major difference of execute an action under physical contact and not.
     
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  2. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Tottenham Hotspur FC
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    #327 soccernutter, Nov 16, 2025
    It wasn't just here, but there were a lot of haters out there saying exactly what @hotjam2 was saying. And while it is true that she had the advantages of family wealth, she was not exactly devoid of talent.

    I know I was worried about the push to have her go pro at the age of 15. But it was coming from a view of teaching and both the mental and emotional development of a 15 year old being put along side adults. The mental side of things seem to have worked out, but I still wonder about the emotional side (and I didn't know she was homeschooled, which ads an additional concern for me).
     
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  3. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #328 cpthomas, Nov 16, 2025
    I don't know Liv personally, but everything I have seen about her says she is a very well adjusted young woman.
     
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  4. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

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    #329 RalleeMonkey, Nov 16, 2025
    Basically, I respected NWSL for having the 18 year old limit. And, when the family sued, I felt like, "okay, if that's what you want ..." It seems like it has worked out wonderfully for her. And, in retrospect, it seems fine that there are a few other minors playing.

    Regarding her background, that's sports. In basketball, baseball, pretty much any sport, the more money you have to pay for training for your kid, the better they are going to be. Football doesn't seem to have that direct correlation (for positions other than QB) because football is sooo driven by athletic ability.
     
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  5. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

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    Real Madrid
    #330 hotjam2, Nov 17, 2025
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    Soccer has become a more well to do sport in this country as compared to others. It’s they the US been on top in the women’s game but not in the men’s game(where the best players usually come from more urban or poorer areas)

    Klinsman complained extensively about this when he took over the USMNT back in 2011—-that(in our soccer culture )all Americans want to do is play to college, then become the future doctor & lawyers instead of turning pro(the MSL was paying as little as $50K back then)

    I do remember the story for example of that the best female player from my own state, had an rich dad that was an dentist who even on weekdays, would fly her over to another state in his own, private Cessna to get personal training by NT members
     
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  6. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

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    #331 RalleeMonkey, Nov 17, 2025
    that’s true of all sports other than football.

    and ya, in the early days, mls was a semi-pro exhibition league. I played in the same rec league as one of the George brothers, it was said he was the best player in the family and could have played mls, but owned his own company and made wayyyyyy more than he wd have made in the league. (Those were different days. I played against Shannon boxx one game in that league, while she was in college). Tyson wahl worked in the offseason, I think he was making $35k in the league.

    somehow Trinity Rodman made it, w no support from her dad, living in motels while she grew up.

    and Klinsmanns son went to Cal.
     
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  7. Number007

    Number007 Member+

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    #332 Number007, Nov 17, 2025
    Women's soccer development in the USA is where the money is. It is funded by parents, most of whom are motivated by the College carrot. All of my daughters played travel soccer on decent teams, and every one had one or more alpha parents who funded parts of the team to ensure PT for their kids. It is not merit based, it is income based and even then there are cliques within the Clubs. Coaches are beholden to certain parents. I don't want to get into how the men's game compares because there is a mature development model that places a value on talent irrespective of where it comes from. The big Clubs have scouting networks all over the world. The women's game does not have that.


    You talk about Rodman making it, but even she would have gone to UCLA or Washington State (?) if she had been able to meet certain entrance requirements. Whilst I believe Rodman is a good player, it is pretty clear that her primary "assets" are pace and power and the elephant in the room, instant name recognition in the USA. Is she any better than Sophia Wilson, Mallory Swanson or any of the other P&P stars we have seen over the last 5 years? I am not so sure.
     
  8. Allende72

    Allende72 Member

    Washington Spirit
    United States
    Nov 17, 2008
    Wilmington, NC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #333 Allende72, Nov 20, 2025
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  9. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

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    #334 RalleeMonkey, Nov 20, 2025
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    Thank you!

    It certainly was a tale of two seasons for her. Before the break, it was impossible that she wouldn't break the rookie scoring record. (it's 11, according to chatgpt). Then, I think she scored one goal after the break and finished w/ 9. She looks really skilled to me. It will be interesting to see how next season plays out for her. It was such a break out year for young forwards in NWSL. There's Tiernan.

    Then Dahlien and Hanks (hope she heals up well). Cooper and Sears in their second seasons. If Tiernan, Dahlien, and Hanks show the kind of year 2 jump that Cooper and Sears did, look out. Then you've got Tordin and Adames. And, Turner settled in at Portland.

    I'm already excited for next season.
     
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  10. Allende72

    Allende72 Member

    Washington Spirit
    United States
    Nov 17, 2008
    Wilmington, NC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #335 Allende72, Nov 20, 2025
    Some of the rookies who were hot prospects in the first half, eg Tiernan, Reale, Schupansky,Dahlien, I think hit the proverbial rookie wall. Still, they all finished their seasons on positive vibes. The one I think is the most talented, Schupansky will be interesting to see how quickly she can bounce back.
     
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  11. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

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    #336 RalleeMonkey, Nov 20, 2025
    Yep, Schupansky looks super talented to me, too.
     
  12. Allende72

    Allende72 Member

    Washington Spirit
    United States
    Nov 17, 2008
    Wilmington, NC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #337 Allende72, Nov 21, 2025
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