NWSL 2021 Referees

Discussion in 'Referee' started by rh89, Apr 10, 2021.

  1. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I believe 10 women are on the panel. All of them work in the NWSL (in order to have their fifa badges). But only a handful can pass the men’s fitness to work in MLS. I know Nesbit and Mariscal did last year. And tori penso had a whistle too.
     
  2. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does Nesbitt work NWSL any more? I thought she was exclusive to MLS, but I could be wrong (or the pecularities of 2020 might have made that true but only temporarily?).
     
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  3. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's been years since either Nesbitt or Felisha Mariscal worked an NWSL game, but I could be wrong. I'm attempting to consult fbref.
     
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  4. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    Does PRO still require women to meet the men's FIFA physical standards? I thought I heard that now they only have to pass the women's FIFA physical. ???
     
  5. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nesbitt's last NWSL game was in 2014
     
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  6. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The question is oddly phrased because there’s no PRO-wide requirement. It’s based on what matches you’re doing.

    You have to pass the men’s test to do first division men’s matches. So women have to pass the men’s test to do MLS.

    Your question would imply, to a less-informed person, that women have or previously had to meet the men’s standard to do NWSL or USL matches, which fall under PRO’s auspices. That’s not true. MLS is the only domestic completion where this matters.
     
  7. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    tbh I don’t think she has since 2019
    I thought I saw Nesbitt on a few women’s matches in 2019 via PRO. It might’ve been a typo? My understanding was that she went from doing Men’s matches to having to change pace for the women’s matches for WWC19. I thought they gave her a few tune-up games.

    http://proreferees.com/2019/05/14/2019-nwsl-assignments-week-6/

    regardless she’s good enough to be in MLS.
     
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  8. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I misread what I was looking at. Her last season with multiple games was 2014. One each in 2018 and 2019.
     
  9. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    04/15/21
    Washington Spirit vs Racing Louisville
    Audi Field (7PM ET)
    REF: Danielle Chesky
    AR1: Ben Pilgrim
    AR2: Nicholas Seymour
    4TH: Jeffrey Skinker

    Chicago Red Stars vs Portland Thorns
    SeatGeek Stadium (7:30PM ET)
    REF: Karen Callado
    AR1: Laura Chambers Waliski
    AR2: Art Arustamyan
    4TH: Lukasz Szpala
     
  10. Reign Man

    Reign Man Member

    SEATTLE REIGN!
    Sep 28, 2016
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Felisha Mariscal 2013: 6 matches, 2014: 1 match -- all as AR
    Kathryn Nesbitt: 2013: 6 matches, 2014: 7 matches, 2016: 2, 2018: 1, 2019:1 -- all as AR
     
  11. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    Well, I was referring to MLS games, but you answered my question.
     
  12. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    04/20/21
    NJ/NY Gotham FC vs North Carolina Courage
    MSU Soccer Park (6PM ET)
    REF: Laura Rodriguez
    AR1: Meghan Mullen
    AR2: Tom Felice
    4TH: Joshua Encarnacion
     
  13. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    04/21/21
    Chicago Red Stars vs Kansas City
    SeatGeek Stadium (6:30PM ET)
    REF: Natalie Simon
    AR1: Jennifer Garner
    AR2: Rachel Smith
    4TH: Calin Radosav

    Orlando Pride vs Washington Spirit
    Exploria Stadium (7PM ET)
    REF: Alexandra Billeter
    AR1: Kevin Lock
    AR2: Ashlee Varnson
    4TH: Alyssa Nichols

    Portland Thorns vs OL Reign
    Providence Park (10PM ET)
    REF: Karen Abt
    AR1: Salma Perez
    AR2: Stephen McGonagle
    4TH: Corbyn May
     
  14. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    Billeter had a pretty questionable call, calling back a WAS goal. She gave the signal to wait for a whistle on a ceremonial restart, but did not verbally state "wait" (according to the 4th official via the head coach, so grain of salt). WAS takes a quick free kick and proceeds to score. What is weird is that Billeter initially allows the quick kick to proceed (I can't find video but she starts running after registering that the ball was moving) and only after the goal was scored calls it back to say it needed a whistle. The issue here, for me, being that she waited too long to whistle the play dead, causing controversy. It almost seems like AR1 reminded her that it was supposed to be ceremonial.
     
  15. ilyazhito

    ilyazhito Member

    Manchester United
    Spain
    Feb 9, 2021
    If a goal was already scored, I would count it. The offense was not disadvantaged by the defender failing to keep distance (if that is what turned the free kick into a ceremonial one), so the goal should stand (assuming the offense does not do anything to void the goal).
     
  16. Midwest Ref

    Midwest Ref Member

    Jul 25, 2002
    Except that is not what the referees are directed to do. Once they have engaged the defenders or indicated in any way that it is on the whistle, their hands are tied.
     
  17. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    But the defense was unfairly disadvantaged by paying attention to the R indicating it was ceremonial. Once the R indicates to wait for the whistle, the whistle must be used before play starts.
     
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  18. Midwest Ref

    Midwest Ref Member

    Jul 25, 2002
    Looking at the video, she used the spray, which automatically means it is ceremonial. She stood off to the right of the ball. She got ready to move and attackers took a quick touch that got them into space and around the wall.
     
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  19. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    Yeah, I agree it was a ceremonial kick. What I don't understand is why she initially appears to let the play proceed and then retroactively take it back.
     
  20. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Possibly it's nothing more than that pause--we can't un-blow the whistle--to process what was happening.
     
  21. gaolin

    gaolin Member+

    Apr 21, 2019
    I thought about this exact same call because I made it something similar in my first HS playoff a few hours ago.... (Varsity girls). Game ended 5-1.

    Here's what happened.

    1. I whistle for free-kick and clearly, loudly instruct "Wait for my whistle." to attackers.
    2. They kick anyway and miss (for goalkick).
    3. I whistle for re-take
    4. I ceremoniously restart by blowing whistle.
    5. They score a beautiful free-kick.

    Defending coach not happy but I explained it... they didn't wait for the whistle. Play is dead until I whistle for restart via whistle.
     
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  22. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    04/26/21
    Racing Louisville vs North Carolina Courage
    Lynn Family Stadium (6PM ET)
    REF: Tori Penso
    AR1: Maggie Short
    AR2: Rebecca Luther
    4TH: Chris Schurfranz

    Kansas City vs Houston Dash
    Children’s Mercy Park (8:30PM ET)
    REF: Alyssa Nichols
    AR1: Tiffini Turpin
    AR2: Melissa Gonzalez
    4TH: Luis Tribaldo
     
  23. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    04/27/21
    Washington Spirit vs NJ/NY Gotham FC
    Segra Field (7PM ET)
    REF: Karen Callado
    AR1: Jennifer Garner
    AR2: Meghan Mullen
    4TH: Nickrod Fateh

    OL Reign vs Chicago Red Stars
    Cheney Stadium (10PM ET)
    REF: Laura Rodriguez
    AR1: Deleana Quan
    AR2: Alicia Messer
    4TH: Christian Clerc
     
  24. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    05/01/21
    North Carolina Courage vs Orlando Pride
    WakeMed Soccer Park (7:30PM ET)
    REF: Katja Koroleva
    AR1: Justin Howard
    AR2: Jeremy Smith
    4TH: Emma Richards

    05/02/21

    NJ/NY Gotham FC vs Racing Louisville
    MSU Soccer Park (12:30PM ET)
    REF: Karen Abt
    AR1: Tiffini Turpin
    AR2: Zeno Cho
    4TH: Christian Centeno

    Houston Dash vs Portland Thorns
    BBVA Stadium (7:30PM ET)
    REF: Elvis Osmanovic
    AR1: Alicia Messer
    AR2: Kaitlyn Trowbridge
    4TH: Melvin Rivas
     
  25. Dayton Ref

    Dayton Ref Member+

    May 3, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I was so excited to see this assignment. Two South Texas friends getting their NWSL debuts.
     
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