Nueva lista de convocados de Lavolpe

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  1. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Lavolpe: 2a convocatoria

    http://www.milenio.com/deportes/nota.asp?id=13426

    Repite el Tri

    Ricardo LaVolpe entregó su segunda lista de convocados y como lo prometió, no hubo modificaciones. Por lo que la lista de 22 seleccionados se mantiene para el encuentro contra Argentina el próximo 4 de febrero.

    La segunda concentración será del 27 al 29 de enero, aunque están citados el domingo por la noche en el centro de Alto Rendimiento, ahora llamada Federación Mexicana de Futbol. La selección trabajará en dos sesiones diarias bajo el mando del técnico Lavolpe y físicamente por Wilson Graneolatti.

    Asimismo, fue convocada la Sub-17 para comenzar su trabajo de preparación rumbo a la eliminatoria mundialista que se llevará a cabo en Victoria, Canadá, el próximo mes de marzo. Los seleccionados trabajarán del 27 al 29 de enero y serán vistos por el estratega Ricardo LaVolpe.
     
  2. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    3a convocatoria

    This roster will be used for the game agianst Colombia

    http://www.el-universal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=119398&tabla=notas

    Convocados:

    1 Oswaldo Sánchez Portero Guadalajara

    2 Moisés Muñoz Portero Morelia

    3 Salvador Carmona Defensa Toluca

    4 Duilio Davino Defensa América

    5 Rafael Márquez Defensa AS Mónaco/FRA

    6 Raúl Salinas Defensa América

    7Héctor Altamirano Defensa Santos Laguna

    8 Pavel Pardo Defensa América

    9 Ramón Morales Medio Guadalajara

    10 Israel López Medio Toluca

    11 José Antonio Castro Medio América

    12 Diego Martínez Medio Necaxa

    13 Luis Ernesto Pérez Medio Monterrey

    14 Juan Pablo Rodríguez Medio Atlas

    15 Eduardo Rergis Medio Atlante

    16 Cuauhtémoc Blanco Delantero América

    17 Fernando Arce Delantero Veracruz

    18 Jesús Olalde Delantero UANL

    19 Braulio Luna Delantero Necaxa

    20 Jared Borgetti Delantero Santos Laguna


    Borgetti, Morales, and Marquez are in. Joel Sanchez, Omar Bravo, and Carlos Morales are out.
     
  3. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
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    Mar 6, 2002
    #3 Rafael Hernandez, Feb 19, 2003
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2019
    Lista de convocados:

    Porteros: Adolfo Ríos (América) y Moisés Muñoz (Morelia).

    Defensas: Salvador Carmona (Toluca), Diego Martínez (Necaxa), Duilio Davino y José Antonio Castro (América), Omar Briseño (Tigres), Héctor Altamirano (Santos) e Ignacio Hierro (Monterrey).

    Medios: Pavel Pardo (América), Israel López y Octavio Valdez (Toluca), Fernando Arce (Veracruz), Luis Pérez (Monterrey), Juan Pablo Rodríguez (Atlas), Eduardo Rergis (Atlante) y Ramón Morales (Guadalajara).

    Delanteros: Jared Borguetti (Santos), Omar Bravo (Guadalajara), Jesús Olalde (Tigres), Daniel Osorno (Atlas) y Christian Patiño (América).



    Its just awful. The list is only for working but he left Blanco and Luna. Luna was clearly dropped because not only he sucked but he also spent the whole 2nd half talking with a cell phone. The Blanco thing probably is just temporary otherwise he is an idiot if he expects Juan Pablo to take Blanco's place.


    But here is the worst past. He called up Daniel Osorno and Omar Briseño!!!!! They have been pure sh** in recent years. Briseño doesn't even start. I agree with Faitelson that if he wants to honor them, then make a movie or a party at a restaurant. Neither of them is even remotely close to being NT material.

    He also still called all the failures from the last two games: Olalde, Juan Pablo and Rergis.
     
  4. EvilRick

    EvilRick New Member

    Jun 4, 2000
    Guadalajara
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    JP Is pure crap and I just can't see why he keeps calling him. Oso-rno is just that, un pinche oso.
     
  5. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Cuahsimodo Blanco

    Good ridance to CaCaTemoc Blanco. I am gladd that Lavolpe was able to see that Temoc was playing his own game and not for the team. The way i see it we are still suffering from the Meza syndrome when the National team became Temoc dependant. If Mexico wants to achieve anything as a team then they must learn to play without him. This has to be the best move Lavolpe has done as coach.
     
  6. Don Boppero 3000

    Don Boppero 3000 DNALMQNLGLLMX!

    Jan 15, 2001
    National Museum of Mexican Art
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I'm agree with you on some level. I don't understand why Blanco keeps getting called up. His age should be the factor that keeps him more than his talent. I feel Mexico should go on without him. I do believe he is very good, but often I find than his game a does not fit in well with this new system. Than again maybe I'm wrong.
     
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  7. NacionalTJ

    NacionalTJ New Member

    Mar 13, 2001
    Tijuana, Baja Califo
    Lets not forget that Lavolpe is not calling players from Pumas or Cruz Azul at the moment. This leaves guys like "Parejita", Trujillo, Palencia, Marinho Ledezma and Cacho out for the time being.

    Back to this call up: Olalde, J.P. Rodriguez, Osorno, and Valdez, need to be erased from el TRI for good.
    Players like Emilio Mora, Heriberto Morales, Alberto Medina, and Lilingston are better than those guys but were left out of the list this time.
    On the positive side, Rios finally gets a call and Patiño could be very interesting if hes consistent. Omar Bravo should start every friendly from now on, I have a gut feeling this kid will own the league in a few seasons.
     
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  8. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
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    Mar 6, 2002
    RDL once asked me why I wasn't a fan of any team and I said that I only rooted for Mexico and that if I was a fan of the team it would get in my way and the I would be asking for players that shouldn't belong, etc, etc. I think this is a perfect example of that. It reminds me of the stupidity of the Diegodependencia of Argentina. (And im not saying that Blanco is as good as Maradona but the always criticism that many people start blaming the best player for being too important to the team as if its his fault).

    Guess what, Blanco is the players with the best vision, change of pace and ability of the team. The whole thing with Meza was that Blanco went down and no freaking player could step up and be that guy with the vision to make those plays. Not Victorino, not Juan Crap Rodriguez, no one.

    Should Mexico get a young player with these abilities for the future? of course

    Should the transition be made? yeah

    Has a player shown that he can take's Blanco's place? No

    I don't like's Blanco's attitude but last time I checked their was no one with those qualities around. And I want the Mexican team to flourish and with Blanco (who was the best player in the only 2 friendlies so far) they have a better chance.

    I also don't want to turn the team into Brazil 2nd national team for players not good enough to even be consider for Brazil number 1.
     
  9. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Apparently according to reports, Blanco and Oswaldo Sanchez weren't called but are still very important and he just wants other players to get a chance. But acording to rumors, Braulio Luna won't be back with the Tri anymore as Lavolpe supposedly is mad at his cellphone and lack of attitude.
     
  10. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Lavolpe may be looking for the future Blanco but you can leave the guy out. There is no adequate replacement for the guy just yet to have the vision and skill to create plays. Lavolpe is doing good in giving him a break to find other guys but to just drop him won't do any good. Remember that when he was in Atlas, he had JP Rodriguez as the one to create those plays and he has been a horrible failure with the Tri.
     
  11. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Originally posted by NacionalTJ

    Back to this call up: Olalde, J.P. Rodriguez, Osorno, and Valdez, need to be erased from el TRI for good. Players like Emilio Mora, Heriberto Morales, Alberto Medina, and Lilingston are better than those guys but were left out of the list this time.

    Agreed. Ther fact that Lavolpe keeps calling up proven failures like Olalde and el Juan Pi Rodriguez shows that there is still favoratism in the FMF.


    On the positive side, Rios finally gets a call and Patiño could be very interesting if hes consistent. Omar Bravo should start every friendly from now on, I have a gut feeling this kid will own the league in a few seasons.

    I also agree. I am one of the few that have been calling for the return of Rios. I remeber when he was the starting keeper under Bora and have yet to see anyone be as secure as Rios was.
     
  12. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Originally posted by Rafael Hernandez

    It reminds me of the stupidity of the Diegodependencia of Argentina. (And im not saying that Blanco is as good as Maradona but the always criticism that many people start blaming the best player for being too important to the team as if its his fault).

    I am not blaming Mexicos subpar performances on Blanco. I can honestly say that he is Mexicos best player and most talented. Thing is from the past two games Temoc has been on a whole diffrent page. You can play for the team or for the tribuna. Blanco is playing for the Tribuna/fans.


    I also don't want to turn the team into Brazil 2nd national team for players not good enough to even be consider for Brazil number 1.


    Did you see Zinha play against Monterrey. :)
     
  13. Martin Cutler

    Martin Cutler New Member

    Sep 30, 2002
    San Diego
    I can see holding Blanco out of some friendlies as he already is a proven player and after his injuries he doesn't need the constant stress on his body. Save him for games which are more meaningful than a friendly v Bolivia. Mexico doesn't have anyone else who possesses Blanco's skill and vision.

    What I think Mexico lacks is someone quick and strong up top. Although I don't see too many Mexican league matches I've always thought Adolfo Bautista would be a good choice for the national team. Once Cruz Azul finishes their Libertadores matches I can see Cacho also being a good candidate at forward.

    How old is Adolfo Rios? I've always liked him as a goalkeeper but hasn't his time passed? He could have been starting in 94 and 98 perhaps but now? I think Mexico would be better served looking for a younger keeper.
     
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  14. Aguilas Del America

    Oct 28, 2002
    Nido de Coapa
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Hes 38
     
  15. Deleted USer

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    Jan 7, 2001
    http://www.esto.com.mx/esto/030220/futbol/11futbol.asp

    why doesnt that surprise me.... Andres Marin TSK TSK TSK. At least it wasnt David Failtson cuase he would have turned that into the main event.
     
  16. Deleted USer

    Deleted USer Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Juan Pablo Rodiriguez and Danial Osorno wont be going afterall...

    Rafael Medina and Carmos Morales will take thier spots
     
  17. fdp

    fdp Red Card

    Oct 24, 2001
  18. PumaBear

    PumaBear New Member

    May 5, 2001
    back in el defectuoso
    1. Braulio Luna is a prima donna. He should be left at home for good. He really was talking via cell phone during a significant part of the second half of the aforementioned game.
    2. Adolfo Rios is still by far the best goal keeper in . Mexico. (He has been so for the last 10 years).
    3. JP Rodriguez and Osorno are not Seleccion material and Lavolpe needs to get that into his thick skull. They do not have the mentality nor the work ethic for that.
    4. If Pinheiro ever gets his act together for good, he will be a lock for the Seleccion. Lavolpe's biggest worry is the left side.
     
  19. Martin Cutler

    Martin Cutler New Member

    Sep 30, 2002
    San Diego
    Answering my question of how old is Adolfo Rios,

    So Rios will be 41 at the time of World Cup 2006. Lavolpe is wasting his time by calling up a player that old. Like I said in my original post, I like Rios and felt he, not Campos, should have been El Tri's goalie in 94 and 98 but now his time has passed. Better to give a younger goalie the chance.
     
  20. Deleted USer

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    Jan 7, 2001
    He is 36.

    I normally would not be in favor of having a player there that old.... but Rios does not move like a 36 year old. He is in tremendous shape and stil very quick.
     
  21. Martin Cutler

    Martin Cutler New Member

    Sep 30, 2002
    San Diego
    Ok thanks RDL for the corrected age for Rios. Yes, Rios has good reflexes still but I feel Mexico would be better served giving younger goalies an opportunity. To me it sounds like Lavolpe throwing Rios a bone now since he was screwed over by previous national team coaches.
     
  22. Various Styles

    Various Styles Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Adolfo Rios will be Mexicos Dino Zoff. :)
     
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  23. rob88

    rob88 Member

    Nov 23, 2005
    Mexico city
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Buena suerte
     
  24. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Why?
     
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  25. LGRod

    LGRod Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 14, 2010
    Listenin to Los Bookies
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

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