NSR-Getting to know each other

Discussion in 'Paris Saint Germain' started by Catfish, Mar 9, 2005.

  1. Bilbao2Brooklyn

    Jun 20, 2001
    Brooklyn,U.S.A.
    PSG intrigues me. I am not sure why, probably because Paris is such a beautiful city.

    I root for you.
     
  2. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm very apprehensive about continuing to back PSG in Ligue 1...NOT because of losing
    but more so about the ultras and the board not stopping the violence and racism.
     
  3. hypolithe_forever

    hypolithe_forever New Member

    Jul 10, 2006
    Créteil - France
    In all clubs there are ultras, in all the stadiums there is violence. In Paris a very tiny part of supporters are racist. It is limited some rows of seats in a very precise part of the stadium. There was a dead man last year around Parc des Princes. But in the street there are deaths every day and I don't stop to walk there.

    The best way of fighting these primary racists is to continue to go to the stadium and to shout " PSG is not a racist club ".
    I am sure that you like United States and that you don't like the KKK.:mad:
    I like France but I don't like when JM LE PEN receives 20 percent of the votes in éléctions.:mad:

    ;)
     
  4. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The US and KKK...huh? I would say less than 1% of the population are militantly
    racist in the USA. Plus you NEVER hear racist chants or violence at sports arenas.
     
  5. Carefree 95

    Carefree 95 New Member

    May 31, 2006
    England
    Then don't. PSG don't need fans who are going to jump ship at the first sign of trouble.

    Through thick or thin I'm proud of the colours.
     
  6. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    But doesn't it upset you about the board doing nothing about the violence and racism in Paris of all places? Trust me, my wife, likes their crest + kits.
    She really wants me to back them..lol.
     
  7. Carefree 95

    Carefree 95 New Member

    May 31, 2006
    England
    Believe me their is nothing they can do about the fans. There are already court orders stopping 300 hooligans from attending the game and trying to separate the rascist fans, which is a tiny minority, from the regular fans is almost impossible in the throng of people in the Kop of Boulogne.

    It's a different system in France than in England or the U.S, banning pople is very hard to do.
     
  8. ilv2

    ilv2 New Member

    May 30, 2004
    L'abbaye de Leffe
    Sure it does, but that's life - the board is already very aware of the need to stamp out racism, and have started banning people from the parc. Are they going to shut down the BB? No, and they should not take any actions as rash as that, given that the majority of people in the KOP are probably decent people.

    If one allows a few bad apples to completely ruin the experience then honestly (and with all due respect to you as a positive contributer), I don't see how anyone can like any sport except maybe for espn's cup stacking championships. Rotten people are a part of life, whether at Paris, London, or Milan (especially w/ Berlusconi and his populist/right-wing slander, talk about club direction sending the wrong message :rolleyes:). Certainly the more moderate fans in auteuil and even within the BB itself have got on with it.
     
  9. hypolithe_forever

    hypolithe_forever New Member

    Jul 10, 2006
    Créteil - France

    And there are less than 1% racist in PSG supporters.
    (I spoke about the KKK to make you react, I know very well that this movement has a limited scale)

    Jean-Philippe D'Hallivillée, Director of communication :

    PSG is partner of the Licra in its fight against the discriminations for two years. The fight does not date Thursday, November 23rd, it dated front and it will continue later. You should not make mixture with all supporters who have nothing to do with a minority of violent and racist people. These people have nothing to make in our stadium.
     
  10. hypolithe_forever

    hypolithe_forever New Member

    Jul 10, 2006
    Créteil - France
    I've never heard racist chants at Parc des Princes.

    We are not in Milano or Zaragoza
     
  11. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I hope that you are right, maybe I will give PSG another season. Like I said before,
    I was more concerned about crowd violence and ultras running the show, than losing.
     
  12. SuperSebGrimaldi

    May 28, 2007
    Scarsdale, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Hey, I'm Sébastien, though the vast majority of my friends here in the States call me Seb. I'm a bit torn in terms of club allegiance in France because almost all my cousins in France are huge fans of PSG, whereas I have always followed the national team more and often liked a club simply due to it having a player I admired. Last year, some of my dormmates thought it interesting how I supported MU while watching some Champions League matches (due to Patrice Evra), though I had no difficulty cheering Arsenal with Henry, Gallas and Clichy a week later. Anyway, I suppose I'd list PSG, Monaco, Bordeaux, Strasbourg and Auxerre as teams I like in L1, but I often think more out of the interest of French football as a whole than on the behalf of a club.

    Oh well. I'm certain one day if I live in France, I won't be this way, but I hope PSG will have a good season. I think they will.

    Oh and happy birthday/bonne anniversaire, Catfish!
     
  13. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    This is a French special about PSG ultras...I wish I understood French.
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=pFlArPzaWww

    Not to go off on a political rant and I may be totally wrong, but when I hear or think right wing, I think fascist/extremists. But is right wing in European political sense, just not socialists as other countries?
    Thanks.
     
  14. HalfManHalfAmazing

    HalfManHalfAmazing New Member

    Sep 13, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your english is strange, but I will attempt to answer your question as someone with a History degree, not as a resident.

    Traditionally Right Wing and Left Wing as well as conservative and liberal are used differently in the United States than they are in other countries.

    In Europe almost the entire political spectrum is far more liberal than the united states, as well as the conservatives in Europe not being as conservative as our (US) conservatives are. The National Front, as well as other race based political movements in Europe are considered "Far Right" by the European political machine, but they are still fairly liberal and in favor of socialist economic political endeavors such as protectionist economic policies and price controls as well as tariffs. If anything, the liberal wing of the democratic party and the far right socialists in the European political spectrum have far more in common politically than the far rights of the US political spectrum. There is not a lot of free market economists in Europe, mainly because Europe at this point cannot compete with the US, and free markets would cause a flood of African goods into the EU which would hurt some of their poorer members in the East.

    This is way off topic, but oh well.
     
  15. kommienzuspadt

    kommienzuspadt New Member

    Apr 15, 2007
    not really in the mood to continue the debate about the BB and racists au parc, so here are a few words about me -

    i was born in america, learned french early in life through my grandparents, and lived in seine saint denis (les pavilions s/s bois) for quite some time. that is where i learned to love psg. i could never explain to my friends - most of whom support big clubs like milan, man utd, barcelona - why i support a small club who seems to be perennially on the brink of disaster, except that my attachment to psg is far stronger than a fair weather fan who only supports chelsea since they signed million dollar talents. supporting psg is kind of like dating a tempestuous woman - sometimes it's hard, sometimes it's great, generally it's always crazy, but i wouldnt want it any other way ;)
     
  16. Aztattooedsean777

    Aztattooedsean777 Tattooed Football Fanatic

    Liverpool FC
    Netherlands
    Feb 15, 2009
    Chandler, Arizona
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands

    Your way of describing your love for PSG is like a friend of mine's description of his love for Fulham in that he just knows something possibly bad is just around each corner but it doesn't stop his love for his team.:p

    I, myself, am a brand new fan to PSG. I am trying my best to learn it's history, style of play, fan supporters(I saw that great video someone posted that showed the enthusiasm of the PSG supporters and that was cool!). I look forward to dealing with the ups and downs of PSG football.:cool:
     
  17. Aztattooedsean777

    Aztattooedsean777 Tattooed Football Fanatic

    Liverpool FC
    Netherlands
    Feb 15, 2009
    Chandler, Arizona
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I wrote this in the new kit thread but I wanted to add this in here as well to introduce myself to all of the regulars of this PSG forum.

    What lead me to wanting to learn more about PSG and add myself to the supporters list of this fine club:

    I am a glutton for punishment I guess. I guess that to show me that I am not the only one's on this planet with great stress at work, I support good clubs such as PSG whose ups and downs will show me that I don't have it so bad.

    Noooo! ha ha. I am a big supporter of almost all the various European leagues. I started to show an interest in the French Ligue 1. I knew I despised Lyon and especially Marseille(especially as some of their ex players went on to play for other clubs I despise) .

    It also was awesome to see the amazing fan atmosphere in the matches I have seen bits and pieces of in online videos.

    I like that things are just handed to you as a PSG player and supporter.


    I don't mind the initiation on your behalf.

    I open to learning everything there is to know about PSG. I did get to see PSG on tv for the first time last season as I finally had access to Setanta which allowed me first viewing access to the French Ligue.


    It is nice to meet everyone of you!:cool:
     
  18. Aztattooedsean777

    Aztattooedsean777 Tattooed Football Fanatic

    Liverpool FC
    Netherlands
    Feb 15, 2009
    Chandler, Arizona
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Okay, throw it at me the new guy, which current players are expected to do well this year and which will have me climbing the walls with frustration due to their inconsistent play?:)
     
  19. Gotham PSG

    Gotham PSG New Member

    Jul 30, 2006
    Well, this might be fun, PSG has already played 2 friendly games, this is the best way for me to get back in the fray after a relaxing footie-free summer. Because there was one point back in march where I almost OD'ed on too much football, we played like 9 games in 3 weeks, I needed a break after that long season.

    I might come back in a few days and make a longer list for each player, but in the meantime I'll give you just two names:
    Kezman: you will pull your hair out every time you see him near the ball. He can't run. he can't pass. He can't shoot. he can't score. He can't even control the ball. Absolutely utterly useless. I already had a bad opinion back in his chelsea days, but I was willing to give him a shot last summer.
    Rothen: He is the ultimate fan favorite.... as a fellow fan. As a player, he went over the hill and into a ravine last season. Throughout the years he's been quite useful, but last year showed he just doesn't cut it anymore. One suggestion: turn your tv off any time you see him getting ready to hit a free kick. You'll spare yourself the horror.

    And a word on one of our summer signings, Coupet: it is completely humiliating, I still can't believe an idiot of his stature could be in our team, as bad a reputation some of our players might have had, Coupet is exponentially worse. The only way to have made it worse would have been to sign Barthez.


    :D Don't worry, I'll be a little more objective in my real list. Although the whole thing about Kezman is true.
     
  20. Aztattooedsean777

    Aztattooedsean777 Tattooed Football Fanatic

    Liverpool FC
    Netherlands
    Feb 15, 2009
    Chandler, Arizona
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands

    I guess it is a good thing I shave my head so I don't have any to pull out in these situations.:p
     
  21. Aztattooedsean777

    Aztattooedsean777 Tattooed Football Fanatic

    Liverpool FC
    Netherlands
    Feb 15, 2009
    Chandler, Arizona
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    just in case there are any new members in this forum, it is always interesting to see how one gets into a particular club.
     
  22. Bianconeri13

    Bianconeri13 Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    Anaheim, CA
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    im a PSG fan because my mother immigrated to the us from paris, and her familys team of choice was PSG so mine is now too :)
     
  23. InterFan76

    InterFan76 Member

    Mar 20, 2012
    Hamburg,NJ
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I've just started following PSG this season. I'm a big fan of Diego Lugano and try to follow him where ever he goes.
     
  24. Samora

    Samora Moderator
    Staff Member

    Inter Milan
    United States
    Mar 27, 2008
    San Diego!
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    weren't you a st.etienne fan?
     
  25. Bianconeri13

    Bianconeri13 Member

    Dec 21, 2010
    Anaheim, CA
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    im VERY surprised there hasn't been at least a few bandwagoners here. i actually don't mind it at all, but still very surprised...
     

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