Now what? Quakes next chapter

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by TyffaneeSue, Aug 31, 2016.

  1. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    sadly for us, this is the crux of the matter.

    our only hope is for this team to be sold to someone with winning aspirations.

    I wish it wasn't so painfully obvious.

    :(
     
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  2. staudio

    staudio Member+

    Mar 7, 2008
    Marin
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    27th of December and no announcement yet on the new GM.......:mad:

    doesn't the transfer window open up in the next week or so?

    just when I think this organization can't get anymore inept, they somehow do.:confused:
     
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  3. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes

    Watch -- it'll get sold to the Yorks!

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  4. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There was no end of the year deadline and in fact they said it may take longer, and our transfer window is longer then the European one. I'm not going to be surprised if we don't announce our GM until January 10th. Anything after that and Ill wonder what the hell is going on though.
     
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  5. davez

    davez Member+

    Aug 10, 2000
    Mountain View, CA
    I think they want to bring back Wynne for depth (right back, fullback). It is a long season and you need at least 8 good defenders with injuries, suspensions...
     
  6. Beckham7

    Beckham7 Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Northern, California
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Welp according to this tweet the great Kaval is in Hong Kong. Any GM candidates there?:mad:
     
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  7. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If it really is Tab Ramos that is to be named GM, will they really have needed to spend time and money on an International Agency in England to find him? All they had to do was get his former USMNT buddy Dom Kinnear or anyone else in the MLS offices to dial his number.
     
  8. doppelganger

    doppelganger Member

    Jul 6, 2001
    santa cruz, ca
    Meanwhile, last season's US Open winner and Supporter's Shield winner has added its 7th player (including 3 HGP's). I guess if there is no new news, there is nothing to get one's hopes up?
     
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  9. QuietType

    QuietType Member+

    Jun 6, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Earthquakes and Bay FC
    United States
    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Is there anything baseball-related there? Kind of an odd place to spend winter break. "Kids, we're going to Hawaii -- with a slight detour."
     
  11. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Nah, I doubt it. You know how eager (not!) Dom is to play young players. He will ride his veteran players into the sunset of mediocrity.
     
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  12. QuietType

    QuietType Member+

    Jun 6, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not if you're rich.
     
  13. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Possibly this?
     
  14. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Meet our new GM:

    [​IMG]
     
  15. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it was interesting to listen to David's MLSFix podcast of Marvel Wynne. Marvel hopes he transition to CB, where he doesn't have to be as fast, and therefore play until he is 35-36.
     
  16. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Well, unfortunately, he is not getting taller either :). My theory on Wynne is that he is not all that fast in very short sprints, i.e. his first few steps are not very fast - he takes a while to get going, especially at this stage of his career, and that gets a little worse every year. When he gets going into a full sprint he is still fast. But in the CB position you often have to make those short bursts. He would however come in handy chasing after through balls if the line is high. But his height is also not ideal for CB.

    So bottom line, I don't think he is starting quality at either RB or CB anymore. CB for the reasons I mentioned, and RB because he doesn't contribute enough to the attack. I know that may not be a popular opinion. Would still be useful as depth for the right price.
     
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  17. Venceremos

    Venceremos Red Card

    Jul 17, 2013
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Found this on Twitter
     
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  18. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    He should be a CB since he's simply better there than he is at right back. I'm convinced it's the reason he was brought in to San Jose in the first place. He had significant experience as a center back before, but the Quakes had two of the best center backs in the league already so they used him where they needed a smart defender. Sure enough, Goodson couldn't continue through 2016 and Wynne stepped in and did a good job alongside Bernardez, over Imperiale even.

    It's easy to see Bernardez getting fewer games this year than in years previous. He's older, they'll want him fit for big matches and the life of a CB can be risky in general. If that's the case, having Wynne will be an important piece to maintaining a stingy defense.
     
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  19. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haha where did u find that? I should follow that tweeter.
     
  20. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I think Wynne does reasonably well at CB but I think he is somewhat weak in the air just due to the fact that he is often going against guys that are 3-5 inches taller than he is. I don't have the numbers to prove it, but seems that the Quakes gave up more goals in the air and became more susceptible to getting scored on in set pieces with Wynne at CB. There was one game in particular (against NE?) where there was a along diagonal cross into the box and Wynne jumped but the ball went like an inch over his head and an opposing player got on the end for an easy goal. Yes, even if you're a tall guy, the ball is still bound to go just over your head occasionally, but this was a ball that I think would normally be cleared by a CB.
     
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  21. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I agree, I'm not a big fan of Wynne at CB, imo his decision making is the thing that slows him down the most...I'm hoping he is depth at RB.
     
  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah and to be clear I would be happy if they can re-sign him to a deal that hits the cap at a reasonable amount given where he is in his career. But at the same time, if he is still starting regularly I don't think the team is really improving.
     
  23. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    The evidence suggests that Wynne is, at the very least, above average at CB. I don't think his height is hurting him any, either. There aren't that many forwards at 6'2" and there aren't that many center backs driving into the box on a routine basis. If the Quakes suffered more set piece goals it's more likely because they fouled teams more often there than in previous years. Alashe alone put many teams in good positions to score with his haphazard play.

    Overall, the suffered goal totals are too good to make a strong case that Wynne is an issue in the center back spot. You may think he is better at right back, which he isn't, but how many center backs in the league are better? I would argue there are probably less than 10, one of which he plays alongside.

    If he is re-signed, I find it hard to see him starting on the bench. He might start at right back, but Imperiale took a long while to work himself back into the lineup despite being the de facto third center back. There's a reason for that.
     
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  24. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Earthquakes and Bay FC
    United States
    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Really? We're talking about unloading Marvell? How many competent players do we have lined up to take his job?
     
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  25. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Height is overrated. Towards the highlight of my "career" I played CB on a coed team. I am 5'10" and in one game played against a 6'6" forward. I won every high ball that came to my area -- I just had the sorest gluteus maximi the next day from spending 90 minutes imitating a jackrabbit!
     
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