[NOVA] Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial

Discussion in 'Spirituality & Religion' started by Ombak, Nov 12, 2007.

  1. speedcake

    speedcake Member

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    if you dont think the silly-ness is a global affliction then you are sadly mistaken.

    unforunately.
     
  2. speedcake

    speedcake Member

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    dude, along with your other posts I've read recently I'd be dang happy to light up a spliff and talk all night. :p
     
  3. Norsk Troll

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  4. Chicago1871

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    If they would only predict a continuation of the drought, then I'm sure the heavens would open up within a matter of hours.
     
  5. Pathogen

    Pathogen Member

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    My seemingly intelligent father-in-law has bought this line. I tried explaining to him the unlikelyhood of this happening...ever. For some odd reason I hold less way. Must be because I bang the shit out of his daughter. Makes me feel better thinking that, anyway.
     
  6. Dead Fingers

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  7. topcatcole

    topcatcole BigSoccer Supporter

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  8. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

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    Glad I popped into the forum today - I hadn't seen this thread. Checked the listings, and shonuff, WOSU is showing this today at 11AM. Logged into my MythTV server, and set up the recording. I love technology. I just found out about a show I didn't know about via the Internets that starts in two hours and won't be shown again over the next two weeks... and I won't miss it, or work. Awesome.
     
  9. YankHibee

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    A dry year will produce exceptionally sweet and flavorful grapes, but I'm not sure an extended drought could be a good thing for wine or if exceptionally sweet necessarily means the wine will be better at the end of fermentation. Nonetheless, the scuppernongs in NC were fantastic this year with the drought.
     
  10. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

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    Why not? Is a speech, a belief, or an idea rendered neutral in your opinion simply because it is old? Why? Listen here; we Americans have bedrock beliefs, on religion, faith, politics, and the most basic ideas of modern man that date from earlier times: they are still very much valid. The best example of a speech transcending generations would undoubtedly be the Sermon on the Mount (AD 30), words from Jesus Christ on a hill near Capernaum giving way to the faith that Christians practice today. The example of the 1215 Magna Carta Libertatum is also case in point; not so much a speech but a charter setting up the foundation of constitutional law - common law - we have established today. Indeed, the basic idea of democracy, that was the genesis of our U.S. Constitution, was signed in Providencetown Harbor on November 11, 1620 and it set the foundation of our government as an extension of "the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith." That is one of the reasons why any allegation of this government being or having within it a "separation of Church and State" is complete fiction based on this earlier 1620 social contract. Nonetheless, it is to such beliefs, now hundreds of years old, that we Americans still hold in high honor, despite their age. Their power is still immense and their appeal widespread; matter of fact what speeches are given today lack the force of time that these earlier speeches and acts hold true.
     
  11. TheSlipperyOne

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  12. topcatcole

    topcatcole BigSoccer Supporter

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    WE Americans? Oh that's right, I forget that I am not an American in your view because I live in the nation's capital.


    Was that speech about the "invade other countries and force them to have the same kind of government as you have" part, or the "kill them before they kill you" part. I think YOU need to read the Sermon on the Mount and see how much it is reflected in modern day "Christianity".


    As you say, "not so much a speech" since it wasn't a spech at all. You really should learn more about the documents you clam to put so much credence in.

    You forgot the speeches about "taxation without representation". I wonder why?
     
  13. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

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    it should have been Cretaceous Park, but who cares, right?
     
  14. peledre

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    We should resurrect that Ray Comfort/Kirk Cameron debate thread.
     
  15. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

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    BTW, that image is now my desktop background.
     
  16. NMMatt

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    For real: "Blessed are the meek." When's the last time you actually met a "meek" Christian?
     
  17. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

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    the Greek word that's translated "meek" in Matt. 5 has little connotation of what we now think of as "meekness". Jesus was meek (Matt. 11:28), but he took a whip and drove the moneychangers out of the temple court.
     
  18. peledre

    peledre Member

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    So "meek" in ancient greek means a guy who endures flagellation and likes bustin' shit up?
     
  19. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

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    no. it doesn't mean that. it means gentle, mild, humble. but it doesn't mean that a person neglects standing up for what he knows to be right. it doesn't mean being a doormat or enduring abuse.
     
  20. YankHibee

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    Don't y'all know? Turn the other cheek is also mistranslated...conveniently.
     
  21. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

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    neither phrase is mistranslated. understanding what they mean requires looking at what is being said in context and seeing what the scriptures say about the same ideas in other places. and finally, you have to be willing to put aside your preconceived notions and not rely on your own idea of wisdom and force the scripture to conform to your preferred concepts.
     
  22. YankHibee

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    :rolleyes:
     
  23. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

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    ...:p...
     
  24. NMMatt

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    Apr 5, 2006
    So "meek" in ancient Greek meant "meek." I still have yet to meet a kind, gentle and humble, i.e. "meek" Christian.
     
  25. NMMatt

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    Apr 5, 2006
    True, and blessed are the poor in spirit really meant blessed are the CEO.
     

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