Nothing like kicking a man when he's down

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Miles Brasher, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. Miles Brasher

    Miles Brasher Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    Coventry,England
  2. DallasGooner

    DallasGooner Member

    Apr 16, 2003
    Dallas, Texas
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Pathetic if true. Not sure I believe it.

    Well this letter proves that is not true.


    Sounds good, not sure I buy it.
     
  3. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    It be interesting to see a reply, but we all know that's not coming. As much on the media rag on Arsenal for being Foreign, they never seem to say anything about the all English crooks on the board, old and new...

    Maybe I should just support a smaller club less politicking, more football.
     
  4. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    you only think that, trust me.
     
  5. DCUroma

    DCUroma Member+

    Jul 20, 2009
    Suck it Sensi
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Usmanov, always been in his corner.

    Arsenal has completely lost it.
     
  6. LeetOwnage522

    LeetOwnage522 Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Doodlestan
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The club need to circle the wagons today/over the weekend and come out on Monday with a strong statement indicating their intent/vision. The squad is solid, and I was thinking the addition of Podolski, Giroud, and 1-2 others this summer would allow us to challenge for a title next year...but not if the madness continues.
     
  7. Romfordray

    Romfordray Member+

    Oct 24, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This has been going on since 2005. It is unfair to just blame Gazidis. I think the board is at fault too! Why don't we get Walmart to support us? Let Kronke put his money where is shares are.
     
  8. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Will never happen. American owners don't thrown money at English soccer teams - they throw money at teams in the US that they're fans of.
     
  9. Miles Brasher

    Miles Brasher Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    Coventry,England
    Really ? And him being such a nice man and all
     
  10. DCUroma

    DCUroma Member+

    Jul 20, 2009
    Suck it Sensi
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Not true at all. Roma and Liverpool with top 10 spenders last summer and are owned by Americans.

    Who cares about being nice? You support a club to watch them win and do well not hold hands and give out hugs.

    He has a crappy past but he wants to spend, attend matches, and actually see Arsenal succeed. Whats wrong with that?
     
  11. Miles Brasher

    Miles Brasher Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    Coventry,England
    Because he's using this oppurtunity to cause unrest that will have no positive effect on the club. It's not healthy. It's a power struggle that hurts us
     
  12. Romfordray

    Romfordray Member+

    Oct 24, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If anything, the letter shows that Usmanov is NOT the type of person we need as the owner of this club.
     
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  13. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The point is that we don't really trust Usmanov's motives, and he has no history of team ownership to indicate whether or not he might end up like the Glazers. Kroenke is a known quantity - we won't see cash injections into the club, but we won't see money taken out either: his business tends to be asset appreciation.
     
  14. Romfordray

    Romfordray Member+

    Oct 24, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    he has never owned a club like AFC. He will need to put some cash in. Think of it as keeping up the house and not letting it fall into a state of disrepair.
     
  15. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    lol at calling a company for a potential shirt sponsorship only to then find out its owned by Usmanov. What a clown show, lol.

    The letter does have a lot of good points tho. Still dont trust Usmanov, would rather see some rich Saudi Prince drop some cash on the club.
     
  16. deaner1971

    deaner1971 Member+

    Aug 10, 2005
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't criticize clubs like City and Chelsea because I am jealous and secrectly wish to be them. I am sincere in buying into how Arsene and Arsenal believe that a club can be run within its own means.

    I do object that I feel like Arsene runs us too far within our own means but I still don't think the only answer is become that which we dislike.
     
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  17. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    that's gazidis for you. i'm fed up saying it. he doesn't seem to know his arse from his elbow.
     
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  18. Miles Brasher

    Miles Brasher Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    Coventry,England
    I doubt it was done directly by Gazidis though...
     
  19. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    that doesnt make me feel any better
     
  20. n4100

    n4100 Member

    Dec 10, 2003
    Philadelphia
    Anyone else notice how this was done the day after the RvP thing, in which if reports are correct, he's represented by David Dein's son? Convenient, don'tcha think?

    That said, there are very good points made in that letter in terms of debt, financing, and some people walking away with boatloads of cash.
     
  21. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    RVP's agent is Kees Vos
     
  22. WoodDraw

    WoodDraw Member+

    May 29, 2007
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    An embarrassing few days for the club.
     
  23. Romfordray

    Romfordray Member+

    Oct 24, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Worst part of this is now everyone knows that RvP wants to leave on the last year of his contract. I am thinking 10 million is a reasonable offer :( .
     
  24. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the reports are true that MegaFon (more than 50% owned by Usmanov) was contacted by Gazidis about sponsorship deal, then shouldn't we be applauding this tactic since it follow suit of sugar-daddy clubs like City?

    That's not much different than the crazy 400M GBP City is getting for naming rights on a stadium (they don't own) from an airline owned by a the Abu Dhabi government of which Sheik Monsour is a ruling family member.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/08/manchester-city-deal-etihad-airways






    Yes - I'm being sarcastic.
     
  25. Miles Brasher

    Miles Brasher Member

    Sep 6, 2004
    Coventry,England
    I suspect we're spamming loads of companies, and quite possibly by people outside Arsenal. To be honest the petty attempt to score points by Usmanov is worse in my eyes.
    The other way of looking at it, is this. If he owes 50% of the company and he's desperate to help Arsenal, why didn't he proactively offer a deal himself ?
     

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