Not a true Christian: Debate Christianity and Religion's role in Politics

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  1. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
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    You have my sympathies. That said, get your exit strategy sorted now. I've already purchased my one-way (refundable) ticket out of the country.
     
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  2. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    --other--
    She's a doting grandmother, Black, Adventist but very sweet and highly activist in her own way. Seven years my senior. I dated a friend of hers who's a few years older and also SDA. EX-GF would have turned me in, simply because she could not "reform" me. This woman? Nah.
     
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  3. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
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    What kind of heresy is that? Next thing you are going to tell me is that the temptation story in Genesis chapter 3 can't be true because snakes cannot talk, since they have no vocal cords!
     
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  4. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    Well, last I checked burning bushes don't have vocal cords either!
     
  5. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
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    So, there go Genesis and Exodus. But what about Leviticus?
     
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  6. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    No talking animals or plants in that one. However, Numbers is out with the talking donkey!
     
  7. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
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    I’ve seen a talking ass. I might watch one on tv tonight.
     
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  8. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

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    More like an incoherent ass who can't stay on topic
     
  9. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
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    I don't think I can summon enough patience to watch that one. I think I'd rather watch a real donkey try to talk.

    Anyway, I already know how I'm going to vote.
     
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  10. KCbus

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  11. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

    Paris Saint Germain
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    Apr 8, 2002
    Baltimore
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    Pretty much my view on the matter in 2024:

     
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  12. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

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  13. rslfanboy

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    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Baptists having another normal one:


    Agency retracts announced firing of key Baptist leader who had praised Biden’s withdrawal as a ‘selfless act’
    Whoops! Dammit Kevin!
     
  14. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    EDIT: the Bulwark on the story rslfb just posed. Like, three seconds before I did.

    This is telling: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-christian-nationalist-rot-runs

    Long story short, a prominent Southern Baptist leader was fired and then re-instated after he posted this about Biden's dropping out:

    Brent Leatherwood: Not only is this a historic decision, it is the right decision for our nation. The role of president takes a heavy toll and, based on what has been apparent for some time, it was unrealistic to ask President Biden to endure another four years of the incredible burdens placed on the one who occupies this office.

    Southern Baptist Twitter went nuts. Some examples.


    Calling Biden’s decision a “selfless act” did not go down well with that far right crowd, exemplified by Georgia pastor Mike Stone, a former candidate for SBC president and former chairman of the SBC Executive Committee.

    Stone tweeted a link to the BP story and said: “Despite what some partisans will say, nothing in the record indicates Mr. Biden has ‘walk(ed) away from power’ as ‘a selfless act.’ Nothing.”

    To which Southern Baptist pastor Wade Lentz replied, “Even Ray Charles could see that!”

    Which prompted this public reply from Stone: “Ray Charles, Ronnie Milsap, and Stevie Wonder could’ve written a song about it.”

    A posting of the BP story by the ERLC on X — and Stone’s posting on X — both drew dozens of angry responses demeaning Biden, damning Leatherwood and pouncing on the ERLC.

    Southern Baptist commentator Megan Basham quickly joined the fray: “This is one of the most dishonest and cynical political statements I have ever seen. No one believes that Joe Biden dropped out due to selflessness. It’s almost obscene to utter something so discrediting in a moment like this.”


    Now, the guy was re-instated, mainly because the guy who fired him didn't bother consulting with anyone else on the board. Anyway, the Bulwark then goes on to post responses from Biden, Harris, Pelosi and Jeffries after the attempt on Trump's life. Most of you have seen it. And here's the Bulwark's point. Quoth the article, "the fact that Leatherwood’s very Christian statement about Biden made so many Southern Baptists angry is illuminating." After presenting the post, here's the conclusion:

    Biden and Pelosi are Catholic. Harris and Jeffries are Baptists. Go ahead and find a Democrat who objected to their statements of concern and prayer for Trump.

    You can’t.

     
  15. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Hey!!!!!
     
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  16. rslfanboy

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    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
     
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  17. dapip

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  18. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Just to refresh you memories of what you learned in school.

    I guess that depends on your school.

    IMG_7176.jpeg
     
  19. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

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    Jul 16, 2017
    Lies spread by Democrats. Jesus told me we were founded as a Christian nation meant to bring Him back here so we can kill all the Jews and go to heaven. - some gop dude.
     
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  20. Chesco United

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    Jun 24, 2001
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    I found the Evangelicals for Harris/Walz Zoom to be quite illuminating.
     
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  21. Dr. Wankler

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    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Did they post it somewhere?
     
  22. roby

    roby Member+

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    Feb 27, 2005
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  23. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
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    Vanuatu
    Article is about a leiti (3rd gender) beauty pageant in Tonga. Unfortunately Mormon and evangelicals there are pushing against acceptance of them.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/08/26/tonga-trans-pageant-lgbt-rights/
     
  24. Sounders78

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    Tonga has long established itself as the most homophobic of Polynesian countries. Its constitution was written by a Christian missionary, if that tells you anything.
     
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