northern ireland national team

Apart from the time when Neil Lennon and Anotn Rogan were booed because they played for Celtic and the singing of 'The Sash' and 'The Billy Boys', there's not much trouble. Some reform is being made. The singing of those sectarian songs have stopped and John Dallat (SDLP Assembly Member for the East Derry Constituency) wanted the team to stop the playing of 'God Save the Queen' as Northern Ireland's National Anthem (NI Fans want 'Danny Boy' to be the new Anthem). That's a brief insight to Northern Ireland's sectarian problem with regard to football.

 

From thread
https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=48307

At least we know where you're coming from now........

 

So your point is that "non-whites" act that way in America?

 

Ahh! Holes and stop digging, rope - enough of, come readily to mind. The moron's on a roll; don't step in the way of the runaway train...........

 

The crap that goes on in N. Ireland is why a lot of white people left to go to America.

 

If you read a bit of history on the subject you will come to understand Ireland's problems have very little to do with religion.

 

There is just so much wrong with that statement. I guess if you can even write something like that in a public forum then you have been hopelessly duped in your social and educational upbringing. I not saying you are a bad person, but the sentences above represent a world view which -- in an absolute sense -- has no justification whatsoever for continuing to exist.

 

I guess the only reason I’m responding is because I’m fighting with a stubborn Perl script and am procrastinating ripping it apart line-by-line.

First, your use of the term “white people” in not one but two statements on this subject reflects all kinds of sociological baggage that I hardly even want to touch. So, I’ll just leave that aside for the moment, give you the benefit of the doubt, I’ll answer your question in seriousness.

No we don’t. But, that answer is based on the premise that the United States does not share the religious, historical, and political legacy of Erin. I could say that one could draw a parallel to say, the period 1861-65 and then answer, yes. That was organized gang warfare between two sectors of society divided not so much on religious grounds as ideas about the rights of humans and the power role of a distant central government. One could also do an alternate history kind of thing and wonder what the U.S. would look like if the War of Independence had not succeeded and possibly continued to simmer as a low-intensity kind of conflict.

But the larger historical ignorance behind your question is what really bothers me. Do you really think that The Troubles are based on religious lines? That misses say 70% or what Irish history has been about for the last 300+ years. The religious gulf between the sides in Ireland is merely a by-product of Henry VIII of England needing a divorce. It just happens to be that the state religion of the waves of English Colonists/Immigrants/Opressors since that time have been largely of the Protestant persuasion, while the descendents of the original inhabitants of the island largely maintained their pre-Reformation Roman Catholic faith.

See? Sectarianism is a by-product of other historical and political stuff that has nothing to do with unrest in Ireland per-se. That said, religion has been used over the centuries as a stalking horse, a convenient way to classify “Fenian Scum” from “Loyal Unionists,” “peasants” from “gentry”, and “lower class” from “middle- and upper-class” in order to maintain a separate but unequal social and economic relationship in Northern Ireland (and previous in the rest of Ireland). A convenient set of religion-as-class labels that also served quite nicely in the United States for most of its existence as well, by the way. Ever wonder why the Irish, Italians and Poles were treated as second-class citizens during most of the 19th Century? What's one thing they all have in common?

But if the Reformation had never happened you would still have this great historical conflict between people who wanted and continue to want One Independent Ireland and people who desire to maintain membership as part of Great Britain. Granted, a lot of other historical stuff would have changed, but I hope you get my drift. (If you don’t after this you really are a lost cause.)

Today the fight is between the pathetic remaining torch-bearers if you will, of the indepenence struggles of the Teens and Twenties whose causes were lost after the founding of the Free State and who have failed to realize that violence and hate have no place in a modern democracy. They have become more and more marginalized until they look more like Mafiosi than freedom fighters. Because they are only able to get their new recruits from those whom modern Irish/British society has left behind, they are able to leverage and carry on the spiteful and ignorant practices in which it is okay for the "opressed" to demonize the “oppressors” based on spurious historical labels.

Any of this ring a bell? Think Al Queada.

Thus endeth the lesson.

Now back to why

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Sorry -cman-, I'm gonna be more succinct with him:
Thick fuck

 

Man, don't make me bin this thread after I put all that work into my rant.

 

F**in' racist wanker red-herring troll c**t.

Serves me right.

Locked just as soon as I remove hook from my mouth.