North Korea bigger threat than Iraq?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Pigs, Dec 15, 2002.

  1. Pigs

    Pigs Member

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  2. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Yes.
    But now's not the time for logic.
    Now's the time to kick Saddams's butt!!
    (insert whooping and hollering here)
     
  3. Mr. Cam

    Mr. Cam Red Card

    Jun 28, 2001
    N. Korea threatens S. Korea and Japan DIRECTLY and the U.S. INDIRECTLY through the sales of SCUD missles to third parties with money. Let's hope that London never receives a N. Korean care package.
     
  4. Pigs

    Pigs Member

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    Last night I saw on BBC news about North Korea and there supposed "threat". And the news presenter was talking to a "US correspondent". When asked "So why doesn't the United States do anything about North Korea".

    US correspondent said: Well, we have to be realistic, we know that we can do a good job against Iraq with minimum deaths. But Korea on the other hand will be a much tougher job.
     
  5. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002

    And how does Iraq DIRECTLY threaten the US?
    I'm still not clear on this one.

    And Pigs is in Manchester, though it's nice you have concern for London.
     
  6. Mr. Cam

    Mr. Cam Red Card

    Jun 28, 2001
    http://rc.newsday.com/news/nationwo...12,0,607279.story?coll=ny-worldnews-headlines

    And people like you would have called American's bullies if Clinton had had the balls to send in Delta Force, Navy SEALS, or Special Forces on hunter-killer search and destroy missions to pre-emptively eliminate Al-Quida terrorists.
    You never were!
    It's o.k. I guess to murder the Irish, but America is the evil one for any attempt to defend it's citizens.
    Mysteries All!
     
  7. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    'If' Clinton had done anything to pre-emptively attack Al Quaeda?
    Well there was that whole Khartoum pharmaceutical factory affair in 1998.

    Have you seen 'Minority Report'? It's a premise I can see you agreeing with.

    And I will remain that way until things are made clear, abundantly so.

    What?? Know what you're talking about before posting something. Or at least understand the tenuousness of the links you're trying to make.
    And yes it is ok to murder the Irish.
    Stop getting so damn unnecessarily nationalistic when someone doesn't whole-heartedly support everything the US does.
    "Either you're with us or against us" doesn't work in the real world. Though it's my suspicion that the real world doesn't see you all that often.
     
  8. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    Washington was on brink of war with North Korea 5 (8 years now since this report was from 1999) years ago


    Pentagon had predicted up to 1 million deaths
     
  9. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

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    Are you saying the logical move is to invade North Korea?
     
  10. Mr. Cam

    Mr. Cam Red Card

    Jun 28, 2001
    From Monica with Love. BTW - Delta likes those away games with the knock-out stages.
    Link?
    Keep waiting.
    What? Only maczebus gets to post Brit Spit? Mr. Cam thinks not!
    You don't.
    Oh really?
    Who me?
    You have suspicions?
     
  11. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Not at all. Highly illogical (hang on that makes me sound like a geek).

    Why is invasion high on certain people's lists? No matter where we're talking about.

    Not talking about invasion, just that it's obvious - at least to me, that North Korea is more of a threat than Saddam supposedly is - simply due to the hardware it has that Saddam doesn't.
     
  12. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    "I think the North Korean pursuit of weapons of mass destruction across the board is frankly just as troubling as Iraq," U.S. Undersecretary of State John Bolton told CNN.

    And the interception of Scud missiles on a ship from North Korea off Yemen has only underscored the challenge.
     
  13. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    It's a relatively well known film with by a relatively well known director with a relatively well known leading man about how in the future society is made safer by stopping crimes before they are committed.
    I couldn't find a good enough link but just ask some one who's seen it

    I fear I shall have to.

    No, not really, just playing along.

    About you, plenty.


    Well, that was fun.
    But giving terse replies isn't really my style, just thought I'd try it out.
     
  14. Mr. Cam

    Mr. Cam Red Card

    Jun 28, 2001
    Brevity is the soul of wit!
     
  15. RichardL

    RichardL BigSoccer Supporter

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    Yep, it's fine. It was all done for charity (the "Lets Breed Fattened Dodos So We Can Hunt Them Easier Society" - a noble cause). Every man, woman and child in England was sponsored by the number of Irish they could personally kill. A girl of 12 in a village near me was said to have personally killed 17 Irish, and for that she was given a free sticker. There's an etching of her from the local paper, the Binfield Misinformer, she looked so proud.
     
  16. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
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    SCUDs arn't a weapon of mass distruction. A single fighter plane can do more damage more accuratly and do it over and over again.

    > Let's hope that London never receives a N.
    > Korean care package.

    A SCUD has a maximum 180 mile range. To hit London, it would have to take off from France or Belgium. Good luck smuggling a large rocket into there.
     
  17. Maczebus

    Maczebus Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    Don't put it past the garlic swilling swines.

    They've still not forgiven us for Waterloo.
     
  18. obie

    obie New Member

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    The primary difference between North Korea and Iraq is that North Korea is not in a "strategic" location; that is, NK has no oil wells and does not dissect any good pipeline routes.
     
  19. Colin Grabow

    Colin Grabow New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, DC
    Being within artillery range of Seoul and missile range of Japan doesn't count as strategic?

    The difference is this: Iraq is an easy target. We've kicked their asses before and it arguably should only be easier this time around. North Korea on the other hand is an armed camp, that possibly is capable of planting a nuke on downtown Tokyo and/or Seoul.
     
  20. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Colin,

    do you think possible involvement by the Chinese factors into the decision as well?
     
  21. obie

    obie New Member

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    Well... no, or at least not as much as Iraq being one massive oil field.

    I don't know what our responsibility with regards to ASEAN is if intelligence ever unearthed an imminent attack plan against Japan or SK. Are we on the hook if they get attacked?
     
  22. Mr. Cam

    Mr. Cam Red Card

    Jun 28, 2001
    Do the words "Tramp Steamer" mean anything to you?
     
  23. CrewStadium227

    CrewStadium227 New Member

    Jul 9, 1999
    Columbus,Ohio,USA
    What will the U.S. do when an Islamist majority wins a legitimate election in Pakistan and inherits a nuclear arsenal? The extreme parties represent 25% of the population now, and their power is growing.

    The threats of North Korea and Iraq are nothing compared to Pakistan falling to radical Islam.
     
  24. Mr. Cam

    Mr. Cam Red Card

    Jun 28, 2001
    Back India.
     
  25. Colin Grabow

    Colin Grabow New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, DC
    Yes, via our treaty obligations with South Korea and Japan. We do after all have troops stationed in both countries.

    South Korea and Japan are only dialogue members of ASEAN anyhow, not full members. And it isn't a collective security organization either. Separately the ASEAN Regional Forum deals with security matters, but it is only used as an opportunity for dialogue.
     

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