I dunno, been asking this for years. Even sent an email to Jack Warner's address on the CONCACAF site, and nothing.
is there an Scandinavian player of the year given out by UEFA? why would concacaf give an award like that?
I understand you may be arguing for geographic sensitivity, etc. but I think this is perfectly cool to do. There isn't a Scandinavian player of the year award but their is a European player of the year award as well as one for Africa, South America, etc. Therefore a North American player of the year award would be suitable: players from any part of the continent would be eligible. Cheers Barney!
This award should be given, it sounds cool, but it should be named CONCACAF player of the year award, not north american player of the year award, because that would only include players from the US, Mexico and Canada.
North America includes the three nations named above, and the Caribbean and Central American nations. Therefore players from all of these regions would be eligible. Most of the awards that already exist use the following nomenclature: African Footballer of the Year, European Footballer of the Year, Asian Footballer of the Year, South American Footballer of the Year. So it seems to you that the best option is to name the North American equivalent the CONCACAF Player of the Year award? Thus having the following: African Footballer of the Year, European Footballer of the Year, Asian Footballer of the Year, South American Footballer of the Year, CONCACAF Player of the Year, stands out no? Is being "different" as a region something we should continue doing? If we want to adopt the already existing nomenclature it should be exactly the following: CONCACAF North American Player of the Year. Peace
What? Let me understand what your are saying, what you're trying to say is that central america and the caribbean are included in north america? If that is what you're saying, you're terribly wrong. Our condfederation is named confederation of North, Central american and Caribbean association football, not North American football asociation,thats because central american and caribbean nationa ARE NOT part of north america,so calling it North American player of the year award is wrong
Yes that is what I am saying, and I'll expand on it: the North American continent is composed of Canada, the U.S., Mexico, all seven Central American nations, and all of the Caribbean islands not belonging to the South American continent.
Honest to god... I've heard this argument 15,000 times already. You believe one thing. Other people believe something else. That's not going to change. Just call it "Concacaf Footballer of the Year" and be done with it. It doesn't dilute the point of the thread and avoids a huge pissing match you aren't going to win anyway...
Oh, so you agree with me on the geography. Cool! I was a little upset there about having to rehash elementary school geography yet again.
Well, here in Costa Rica teachers in school and college always have told us that Central America is apart from the other americas, maybe you were tought diferent, here is a link that supports what i´m saying. http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_America Anyway, geography appart, i think that award should be called CONCACAF player of the year.
While I personally don't get the argument that Central America isn't a sub-section of North America, as manudo1987 says, they teach geography differently in Central America. I'm sure every area has it's own idiosyncrasies and subtle biases in teaching. The point being: If you have a choice between two terms, one that everyone can agree on and another that will cause a huge fight, you choose the former!
Those teachers were teaching you something that is incongruent with what most (if not all) geographic sources say about the partitioning of the Western Hemisphere. I believe you misread the same source you have provided since this source actually supports what I am arguing and refutes what you are saying: "Central America is a central geographic of the Americas. It is variably defined either as the southern portion of North America, which connects with South America on the southeast, or as a region of the Americas in its own right." Central America is most definitely a region of the Americas, we both agree. I am saying that it is a region which is part of the North American continent, you are saying this is not the case. In the quote it states it is "variably defined," that is some consider it either a part of North America, or a region of the Americans. However, if you consider it a region, as do both you and I, it does not mean that it cannot be part of the North American continent. In fact I would argue that it must be part of one of two continents, either South America or North America. And again, all geographic sources that I've encountered consider it part of the North American continent. I've yet to find a source that claims that Central America is part of the South American continent, a continent in its own right, or simply a "region" which is not part of any continent. Cheers!
Ahhh, pragmatism, I like that! Frankly, however, I do not believe that naming the award the CONCACAF North American Footballer of the Year, would cause much debate amongst higher ranking officials, since, I hope, most of these would be in agreement with what you and I believe (which, really is what most save a few dissenters, agree with). On the other hand, the real world, and the Big Soccer world are two, quite different affairs, therefore, I am in agreement with your pragmatic approach as moderator. Cheers!
That's what the way i was tought here,that the americas where three North, central and south and that's the last statemnt that i'll post regarding to the Americas geogpraphy, i dont care at all if you agree with me or not, this is the way i was tought if you dont like or if you think its wrong its your businnes
dont lose your time manudito.... some others hondurans from honduran will correct him and yes, it sounds dumb for me too
While it shouldn't be argued any further here, if someone could PM me the logic for how this is taught in Central America, I'd appreciate it. Do they seriously teach you 8 Continents instead of 7? Africa Antarctica Asia Australia Europe North America South America ... Central America? If not, in which continent does Central America reside? Oh, and to attempt to answer the original question... The politics of it would get very ugly, very fast. (See the current conversation, or any conversation about hosting the Gold Cup, Jack Warner, Concacaf WCQ structure, etc, etc...)
I personally think it is seven continents with Central America being a sub section of North America. I talked with my dad about this and he told me he learned it as that instead of just North and South America It is just America with three sub sections being North, Central and South. BTW i have a question about that , why aren't Suriname, French Guinea and Guyana I think, not part of CONMEBOL but part of CONCACAF?
Basically, there are 2 answers. Both are true in their own way... 1. Those countries are far more attached culturally and geographically to the Caribbean than to the other South American countries. 2. Conmebol officials were a bunch of elitist jerkoffs and wanted to dump off their minnows on their northern neighbor.
Unlike South America, North America is very diverse. The USA/Canada, Central America, and the Caribbean have little in common with each other culturally or linguistically(which is why they are often viewed as three separate regions.) Central America(Belize and Panama excluded) was formerly one country until it split into five around 2 centuries ago, so it logically is often looked at as one region.
Whatever they call it, they should certainly give it out. Would it be based on a player's performances only for his national team, or both club and national team performances?