Noir

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  1. carolinab

    carolinab Member+

    Aug 21, 2000
    D.C.
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    I've been reading a lot of detective novels lately and now I want to satisfy my cravings for tough-talkin', hard-drinkin', cigarette-smokin' heroes and the women who love them in celluloid.

    Recommendations?
     
  2. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
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    "Bound" is noirish, but not really detectivish.
     
  3. iman

    iman New Member

    Apr 29, 2003
    Tucson, Az, USa
    If your willing to go old school I would say the maltese falcon. It prefected the genre. there is always la confidental. I've alot of good ones but I just can't remeber their titles right now
     
  4. Owen Gohl

    Owen Gohl Member

    Jun 21, 2000
    There's always been a lot of debate as to what is or is not noir. IMDB lists 413 titles. Here's their noir page:

    http://us.imdb.com/Sections/Genres/Film-Noir/

    A few of the best known:

    Out of the Past - Mitchum and Douglas

    The Big Sleep - Bogart and Bacall

    Dead Reckoning - Bogart without Bacall

    Lady From Shanghai - Orson Welles

    Force of Evil - John Garfield's greatest

    The Blue Dahlia - Alan Ladd

    The Asphalt Jungle - Marilyn Monroe in a bit part

    Double Indemnity - Edward G Robinson

    The Killers - Burt Lancaster

    The Killing - Kubrick's breakthrough

    Shadow of a Doubt - Hitchcock

    The Third Man - Vienna noir

    White Heat - Cagney

    The IMDB list has films as early as 1927 but I tend to think that the genre began in the early 40s and ended at some point in the 50s. Color films generally aren't regarded as noir, though IMDB lists Niagara.

    LA Confidential, Chinatown, and Mulholland Falls might be called neo-noir.
     
  5. MeridianFC

    MeridianFC Member

    Jul 26, 1999
    Washington, DC USA
    From an earlier thread of mine:

    Hard Boiled & Noir: the Frames Per Second List
    1. Rififi
    2. the Killing
    3. Reservoir Dogs
    4. Touch of Evil
    5. Sweet Smell of Success
    6. Hard Eight
    7. Maltese Falcon
    8. LA Confidential
    9. Double Indemnity
    10. A Bullet to the Head

    OG's list is quite good too.
     
  6. carolinab

    carolinab Member+

    Aug 21, 2000
    D.C.
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    Thanks, y'all! :) I'm going to have to have a noir film fest of some sort soon, I think it's necessary. I was surprised at how many I'd actually already seen. As a kid we watched black and white movies almost exclusively.
     
  7. champmanager

    champmanager Member

    Dec 13, 2001
    Alexandria, VA
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    For a modern take on film noire, check out "the long goodbye", which features a famous baseball player/writer in a supporting role. A cookie to whoever can name him without using google.
    I may be going out on a limb, but I believe "The Big Lebowski" is very much an homage to Raymond Chandler. Of all the people who say they love that movie, I've never heard anyone say what seems so obvious to me.
     
  8. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    "Murder My Sweet" starring Dick Powell is another good one from the old days

    I love Bogart movies so "Casablanca", "the Big Sleep", "Key Largo" and "The Maltese Falcon" are also right up there

    but for my money it doesn't get any better than "Chinatown"

    Disregard any movies by that runt, Alan Ladd
     
  9. iman

    iman New Member

    Apr 29, 2003
    Tucson, Az, USa
    i can't believe I forgot chinatown.
    I have reached a new low
     
  10. odg78

    odg78 Member

    Feb 14, 2001
    North Carolina



    Jim "Ball Four" Bouton
     
  11. solrac9

    solrac9 New Member

    Oct 26, 2000
    Alhambra,CA
    "Dark City" is sci-fi noir
     
  12. zpjohnstone

    zpjohnstone Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Finger Lakes, NY
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    United States
    as is Bladerunner with a more typically traditional character set.

    And if you get bored of actual film noir, you can actually get back to the OG (Original German ;))Noir, otherwise known as German Expressionism. That's where all the imagery commonly associated with Film Noir started, but none of the actual thematic content.

    So I'm assuming you're all read up on James M. Cain?
     
  13. carolinab

    carolinab Member+

    Aug 21, 2000
    D.C.
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    I am filled with shame.

    :eek:

    I've seen the movies based on his writing...Now adding him to the list!
     

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