No Retreat, No Surrender - El Espartano Alvaro Arbeloa Manager Thread

We will be there no matter what

 

Arsenal were more than content with landing in 4th place for almost a decade. They are not EPL royalty [Utd and Liverpool].

PSG is an oil club. Established in the 70s, they won just 2 Ligue 1 titles before Al Khelaifi took over.

We're comparing apples to salmon here.

 

Utd spent close to what City did post Fergie era. Results are polar opposite. I don't see RM failing to win La Liga for long unless there's gross mismanagement of 1.5 billion in transfers like Utd post 2013.

 

Let's face it, domestic competition in Spain isn't as competetive as in the EPL when it comes to cycles.

 

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— Wolfe (@Wollffe1) May 15, 2026

 

He's still around?

 

To his defense

Ancelotti? Too tactically inept and dinosaur
Xabi? Lacked emotional intelligence to connect with the “stars”
Arbeloa? Kissed too much ass

One of the three is arguably the greatest manager of all time, the second one was one of the most sought after and exciting new managers, and the third well

but my point is, maybe, just maybe this is on the players and the club. We can only blame managers for so long

 

We know that.

But Flo is in denial.

So we are in this mess.

 

And still most want him to continue as president. His strategy around managers and squad building has been a disaster and he just keeps going with the same approach.

I do believe Ancelotti reached the end of his cycle and it was a good move to start a new project with a renowned guy like Xabi. I figured it was a sign of change in philosophy by Florentino, but firing Xabi proved that wrong. And then Arbeloa who I think is a very talented and cool guy will also not be given an actual chance. Instead of giving either Xabi or Arbeloa a real chance, we are going back to Mourinho.

Im not really a fan of "better the devil you know" concept. We can do better but that means actually risking something instead of always preferring to feel safe in whats familiar, even when its clearly wrong.

 

Thank you, I thought about all the blame CA was getting last week but forgot to post.

The club, the players and the medical team are to blame, unfortunately Flo isn't going anywhere and the players have contracts so they aren't either.

 

That's why the Mourinho hiring is so perfect - he can do the worst job ever but will have eneryone in the media convinced it's someone elses fault.


Than Florentino can say you see, it's not me I was smart enought to hire Mourinho and nobody thinks anyof this is his fault except all the fans and players - but the media sitll thinks he's great and at Mbappe FC our goal is to win transfer titles and PR awards.

 

He's a limited manager but how exactly is he a cone?

Seems to be confronting Carrerras, Carvajal, Mbappe etc. Benching them.

He seems to be dealing with the player power more than the previous manager who succumbed to everyone and everything.

 

Brutal.



"What was less surprising was watching the self centered Frenchman further expose himself as the biggest problem for Los Blancos.

Mbappe was horrible. He had nothing to do with the first goal, which was scored by Vinicius Junior and truly created by Jude Bellingham (the actual stars of this team), and he cost his team several goals with his usual selfishness. Not passing to open teammates, holding onto the ball for an eternity, and either blatantly missing or waiting so long to pull the trigger on the shot that the defense simply took it off him."


https://therealchamps.com/kylian-mb...-he-didn-t-expect-01krvz49a684?utm_source=RSS

 

Proper leadership vaccum in the squad and groups formed with self serving "leaders".

 

I’m delighted both Flo and Mbappe are staying. Maybe the people who were so hell bent on being miserable when we were winning CLs left and right will now appreciate those CLs a little more, or they will become more miserable now. Either way, that makes me happy.

anyways it’s funny how Mbappe and Flo staying pisses off the right people. Madrid never lets me down.

also I’m almost enjoying this little shithousery going on, had not seen it in Madrid since 2009… I was a bit tired of always being hated without reason, now at least there is reason and I’m ok with that.

 

thia tracks, as a Mexican madridista I also want Flo here until he drops dead .

 

Well because we wish the club well and understand that while Florentino hasn't made Madrid's sporting success priority the last years and his 2nd in command has had things rot a bit... we know he is the one built this Madrid that the people who bash the club came to follow

 

Barca had Ronald Koeman we got Ronald Cone Man lol

I genuinely think the cone thing is quite funny though, despite really liking Arbeloa and feeling a bit bad for him, he clearly got the job too soon.

When I was in university I tested directly into an advanced calculus class, and felt completely out of my depth from Day 1. I can imagine that is how Arbeloa might be feeling as well.

 

As they should! The club put him in a position that may have resulted in the derailing of a potentially promising managerial career. Considering he's a valuable and highly respected club member, the club should feel somewhat of a responsibility to put him in a position to get things back in order.

And yeah, I know all the legal stuff: he's an employee and he was simply instructed by his employer to take the 'promotion', etc. But sometimes it's not only about that stuff, particularly if it concerns a person like Arbeloa who lives and breathes Real Madrid.