No Retreat, No Surrender - El Espartano Alvaro Arbeloa Manager Thread

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  1. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Most agents would crush that noise within 15 minutes.
     
  2. Hendrix22

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    Feb 28, 2010
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    Some legendary club with a legendary president, afraid of agents lol
     
  3. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    "If you don't like my player, sure, release him"

    People were amazed that the club got a good deal with Camavinga but a lot of it had to do with the fact that it was Bales agent that did it.
     
  4. Zidane05

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    Neither did Ancelotti, but that's the criteria of coaching a club like Real Madrid where you don't really get to make all the decisions.
     
  5. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Correct. Even the most pro Mourinho articles claim that he understands that the gig is to make it work with what he has, not to change the entire team.

    The whole "coach that signs players" prototype has been gone from the game since Wenger and Ferguson retired and both had started being absolute garbage at it.
     
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  6. Zidane05

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    I don't think any coach should have a say in who we sign, however, if Mourinho has any chance of success (and the whole point of signing him to be honest), he needs to come in with power to run the team from a day to day perspective. There can be no interference on who he selects and why.
     
  7. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    Incorrect. He did sub them off at times.

    Arbeloa pales in comparison.
     
  8. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    No one is arguing whether Jose has power to change the roster tho.
     
  9. 4x4s

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    He needs to get results just like any other guy.

    If I would root against Madrid, I'd be super glad this is the choice they are making. When I made the connection once they sacked Xabi I was told he was washed up, but now we're starting to lie to ourselves and do a little of gaslighting on ourselves to somehow remain positive.

    Out of all the potentially great young Spanish coaches with upwards potential the club decides to sign a toothless tiger. Meh.
     
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  10. Saeta Rubia

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    Experienced ones like Valverde, Emery? It was too soon for Xabi. So same would apply to Iraiola and Cesc.
     
  11. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
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    Maybe Mourinho giving Real Madrid the business with his mediocre team changed a lot of people's minds.

    Those young talanted Spanish manager's might be better candidates, but without Flo's trust, it's useless. Case and point, Xabi.

    So Mourinho fits the bill, whether we like it or not.
     
  12. 4x4s

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    Wolfsburg beat the team with Bale Benzema and Ronaldo, why wasn't their coach considered?

    Mourinho's game isn't relevant in the hire. He's famous and "cool", the entire world is laughing, but it gets the club in the media so go go go.
     
  13. 4x4s

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    Bayern hired Kompany and gave him stability. And their club pretty much operates on the same basis that Madrid does.

    Madrid just never liked Xabi all that much, similar to Tuchels relationship in Munich. They hired him because they felt they sort of had to.
     
  14. Saeta Rubia

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    There will be a clear out eventually with band aid approach not working.
     
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  15. fierro

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    #1240 fierro, May 11, 2026
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    It's too bad instead of young Spanish coaches with potentail, there's not some steady head out there that despite managing smaller club like Sevilla, Valencia, etc., who is kind of respected throughout the leauge by players and coaches but hasn't had a chance at a major club.


    Someone like Marcelino, Emery, etc., I'm obivously not a La Liga insider and I know the Pellegrini experiment failed but someone like that might be able to turn around what is still a very young team with players that have room for improvement but need a manager who can both gain/earn their respect/trust and also competently implement a productive system and tactics.


    I just felt like guys like Lopetegui, Xabi, Arbeloa, Solari were all way too short on experience despite maybe having the tactical knowledge, eye for talent, etc., and maybe someone who's been around a while would just have a calmer presence - like Luis Aragones when he took over Spain.







    Nah, the club had a passing interest and got caught publicly flirting and twerking for him and found themselves a year later in a social media arranged marriage that neither party wanted to back out of because they amount of clicks and likes they were generating.


    Only with the benefit of hindsight is the club able to play the "it was just a one night stand" card but in reality Florentino was already shopping for a ring while the vending machines were all still stocked with Carlo's favorite flavor of chewing gum.
     
  16. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    Considered for what? Zidane went on to 3-peat. Lets not have dishonest discussions here just to look good.

    Irrelevant or not, his playstyle actually fits the current midfield a lot.
     
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  17. 4x4s

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    His results do so too. The competition will be delighted.
     
  18. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    What reaults? He hasn't even coached yet.
     
  19. PeXXeR

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    Sep 24, 2023
    No Barca rats at Real please

    Cant stand them, Cesc, Xavi, Alves,Pique, twats all of them
     
  20. robertocarlos3

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    Results in all the team he coached since he left real Madrid speaks for themselves.
    It ain't positive or pretty.
    How do you see Mourinho fixing the mbappe/vini issue? He can't. So we're going to have more of the same.
     
  21. Hendrix22

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    Guardiola and Arteta beg to differ.
     
  22. 4x4s

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    I know for a FACT that Guardiola doesn't sign players.

    I can give you the exact example. He specifically requested Neymar back when Barcelona was negotiating with Santos and was told "the moment the first snow falls on his nose your little wizard will call his agent and ask to go back home".

    Coaches have input, but the "manager" prototype is pretty much dead.

    Coaches generally only see players they face/play against or guys with a profile big enough to be covered on global media.
     
  23. Hendrix22

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    Not even Wenger and Ferguson got every player they requested. Pep has Txiki working transfers for him, but he brings players that fit in the unified vision. Look what hes making out of Doku right now:inlove:
     
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  24. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    We can say the same for Carlo.
     
  25. saadomar

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    I agree with AA here. Arsenal could probably win a double this season, and they havent won anything major in decades. PSG has been irrelevant in UCL football for the past 40+ yrs and is now looking unstoppable.

    Would any of us trade being a Real Madrid fan in exchange for being a PSG/Arsenal? Hell to the effin' NO. Never in my life.

    Real Madrid are having a very bad period right now. Our dressing room is imploding with zero leaders to anchor the team, the coach knows he's gone in the summer, the President just went on an embarrassing tirade in front of the whole world to basically play victim. Nothing is going right for Real Madrid right now. Every Madrid hater is having an absolute dream right now.

    But as they say: Form is temporary. Class is eternal.

    Real Madrid will bounce back one day. I was here for the good times, I was here for the bad times, and InshAllah, I will be here as a Madridista for whatever comes next.
     
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