It's official: OT is no more. Also some other rules changes, including no more Landon shirt-removal goal celebrations. http://www.mlsnet.com/content/04/mls0323ot.html
Re: No More OT Losses! Now Cheatin' Bob can't cheat anymore. They need to rename the 3 sub rule to the Bob Bradley F'ing Sucks! rule.
Re: No More OT Losses! I just posted the same thing on another thread! Best news since the arrival of ADU!
Re: No More OT Losses! Also no Bradley cheating - No 3-1 substitutions where you get an extra goalie sub like Bradley did to us last year - Burn Scum Burn! AS for OT - we would of had a much better point total last year without OT as we lost several and won not a one during OT.
Re: No More OT Losses! Great news about the death of Overtime! I find the increasing punishment for dissent and "bring the game into disrepute" to be interesting. While in principle I'd like to see less dissent out of players and less yelling at the referee over calls, I'd like to see more management by the referees to reduce tensions on the field before pulling a card and also more consistency on calling fouls. In my experience the best way to reduce dissent and foul language is to call a game consistently and firmly. Mayhaps after his forced retirement Collina would love the challenge of MLS. (This year he's out in Italy and he's only got 3 years in England, Scotland, Germany or Spain IIRC)...
Re: No More OT Losses! While I'm pleased about the elimination of OT, the beefcake admiring girl in me is sad to see this go bye bye: K
Re: No More OT Losses! I found this part interesting. " 6. SUSPENSIONS & NATIONAL TEAM CALL-UPS: Players suspended from MLS League matches (regular season or playoffs) who are called in for national team duty shall have their suspensions held in abeyance until they return to their MLS team.' Now when a Ryan Nelson, Bobby Convey or any other player gets a suspension he cannot count Nats games as "time served".
Re: No More OT Losses! Also interesting is the new provision to stop guys from getting out of their suspensions through national team duty. Where did all of these common sense changes come from? What's happened to MLS?
Re: No More OT Losses! I like overtime, but not the useless little 2x5-minute thing MLS had, I like 2x10 or better 2x15. For the life of me, I just don't see what FIFA has against the golden goal (or more appropriately sudden-death ) Instead they want to adopt the college way of playing overtime until it is over, how cute. Oh well, I'll take none over 10 minutes worth. I also liked the extra goalie sub (ONLY since we have small rosters), but without the Cheating-Bob-loophole. Heck, just make it so the sub, whoever it is MUST play at least 10 minutes in goal. I think even we could have scored against Eddie Gaven. I feel bad for the ladies about the whole taking-the-shirt-off thing, that seemed pretty harmless - besides when the ladies were looking at the shirtless men, I could look at them a bit harder without getting slapped Maybe the rule is meant not to embarrass fat guys who score.
Re: No More OT Losses! Why? He was the third or fourth person to do it, all completely legally. Glad they got rid of it, but if you're going to blame somene for taking advantage of a bad rule, blame Jeffries, who I think was the first to do it without there being a true injury.
Re: No More OT Losses! Goodbye OT!!! This is the best news I've heard in a long time. I just did a dance in celebration.
Re: No More OT Losses! Woo hoo! Now we can go lose the old fashioned way! Seriously though I'm quite happy about this. All of the changes in fact.
Re: No More OT Losses! 6. SUSPENSIONS & NATIONAL TEAM CALL-UPS: Players suspended from MLS League matches (regular season or playoffs) who are called in for national team duty shall have their suspensions held in abeyance until they return to their MLS team. Wasn't there a friendly last year in San Jose that BA called in players simply becuase their team had a by-week or becasue they were suspended for a game. This could be a double whammy on the clubs...a player is suspended (for whatever reason) and has to sit out, BA sees that he's not playing and brings him into camp and plays for the NATs. Then he return to his club and then is forced to sit out another game. If this is during the stretch run near the end of the summer...this could create a dilemma...sit out one game and miss a chance with NATs, play with NATs and miss two games.
Re: No More OT Losses! I like the rule changes. Didn't someone do some of the math on our past two seasons - how our standings would have changed without OT? I think both years we would have come out way ahead of where we ended up.
Re: No More OT Losses! Lovely. We just lost upto 10 free minute of exciting (any-goal-can-win-it) soccer at the end of a closely contested match.
Re: No More OT Losses! Actually, the way I see it, we just lost ten minutes of tentative, tired, any-mistake-can-and-will-lose-it soccer that can-and often-did ruin some amazing comebacks and finishes (Petke's late-late equalizer vs. Columbus being cancelled out by an OT loss last Fall being a perfect example).
Re: No More OT Losses! I'm not sure whether to be overjoyed or upset at this. On the one hand, the arrival of overtime coincided with the declining fortunes of DC United. On the other hand, our coach has stressed fitness and training so that we don't have as many late-game flops as we did in the past couple of years, and now that's being taken away from us...
I believe that training to play overtime will benefit a 90 minute contest. It's not about what time you train for, but a competition against the other team. There is no question in my mind that DC United did themselves no favors under the Hudson regime in the fitness department. Many games could have been settled in 90 minutes that needlessly went on longer. Now, about the press release. My favorite part is the pseudo-lawyer language. Does anyone care to speculate what an "egregious incident of mass confrontation" would be? Wouldn't that pretty much apply to the very notion of competitive team sports? Then again, maybe George Carlin had a hand in writing the new MLS rules... Cheers, Tim
Re: No More OT Losses! We also lost some take it to the corner early in the first OT, play it back to the keeper because we were lucky to get this far and why bother with this second-half stoppage time because we'll get a rest in a few minutes before OT starts. I was always in the middle of OT. Sometimes the players and coaches didn't seem like they cared. And if they didn't care, why keep up the farce?
According to the stats on the MLSnet site only something like 6-7% of the 600+ games that went to overtime ever had a winner. Seems like reason enough to scrap it since it almost never actually ends up with a goal being scored. I wonder how many of those goals came vs DCU?
I thought that 6-7% was of the total number of games played, and that the percentage of OT games with a winner was around 25%.
As a friend of mine said upon hearing the news: with DC United's tying ability, they will be a force to be reckoned with!
It's about time. I remember at least KC and LA last year when we lost in OT. I don't think it would have made much of a difference, we were playing like crap at the end of last year.