No Keller,no Friedel for Confed Cup (soccertimes.com)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Father Ted, May 16, 2003.

  1. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    http://www.soccertimes.com/usteams/2003/may15.htm

    This probably means Tim Howard in goal, I wonder if Kasey/Brad will be available for the Gold Cup. If not, my question is what about long term...if Keller and Friedel do not play friendlies+gold cup+confed cup, then does that make Howard the number 1 keeper for the WC qualifiers? Afterall, if they dont play, they cant expect to join the team for the first WC qualifier.
     
  2. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Do Confed Cup rosters have 2 or 3 GKs? I'm guessing two.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see one MLS and one non-MLS keeper. Hahnemann and Cannon will be both on be on summer break. If Keller and Friedel are out, then I wouldn't be surprised to see Howard and Cannon.

    I guess the more interesting question begins to revolve around who the GKs will be for the Gold Cup.
     
  3. Ajax65

    Ajax65 New Member

    Feb 28, 2000
    Miami
    Club:
    Miami FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any chance that Arena will give Johnny Walker a call up?
     
  4. MLSNHTOWN

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    I really don't think Arena will bring in Johnny Walker for the Gold Cup or the Confed Cup. If he is going to get a look it will be for a friendly that is meaningless. Right now our top three of Friedel, Keller and Howard are pretty much locked tight.

    Cannon will get a look, as will Hahnemahn I imagine this summer. I wouldn't be surprised to see the #2 keeper in MLS (whether it be Brown, Thornton, Hartman, whomever) also be brought in for the tournies.

    I just think J. Walker is in one of the few countries of the world where his results to date don't warrant a call in for a tourny. Just a friendly, if at all.

    The US is way too strong in Keeper.

    Side note, I thought he was considering applying for citizenship with Chile?
     
  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    If Walker goes the summer without a callup for at least a friendly, I would not be surprised to see him play for Chile, now that he's been there long enough to become a citizen.
     
  6. todda74

    todda74 New Member

    Nov 4, 2001
    Annapolis
    i think we are strong enough with MLS keepers to not have to worry about calling in Keller or Friedel. Until the final stages of WC qualifying I think the younger keepers should be given a chance. Howard and Brown seem to be the steadiest right now. I would like to see how a green MLS keeper reacts to being in Acteza stadium or some other central american stadium.
     
  7. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    Ok, so Friedel is just "taking a break"? I mean, I understand Keller, he's having surgery. He's going to try to be back for the Gold Cup.

    But Friedel? Come on dude, you're one of the best keepers in the world, and you cant get out there for three games in the best international tourament of the year? Is there something else I'm missing here?
     
  8. Kevin Etzel

    Kevin Etzel Member

    Jul 18, 2000
    New York
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Break

    Perhaps he just needs some time off.
     
  9. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I thought I read somewhere that Friedel was also going to have some very minor corrective surgery. I don't think it had to do with his vocal chords, though.
     
  10. yellowbismark

    yellowbismark Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    World Cup + Premier League season = well deserved break
     
  11. house

    house Member

    Dec 27, 1998
    Inver Grove Heights, Minn.
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Didn't he have knee surgery during the season and rushed back? I imagine his body needs a break - and we need to get Howard in some meaningful matches...
     
  12. monop_poly

    monop_poly Member

    May 17, 2002
    Chicago
    [Friedel's acquired British accent] "Club before country and all that" [/Friedel's acquired British accent]

    Plus, next year Blackburn is in UEFA Cup. So, he's looking at a full schedule if they perform well.
     
  13. BenC1357

    BenC1357 Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    KC
    If anything, I agree that we need to see how Howard performs in some meaningful matches against some of the worlds best.

    Maybe Friedel deserves a break, but the Confed Cup is more than a month after his season ended, and would give him roughly a month and a half before his next season began. For a keeper, thats plenty of time.
     
  14. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Grant Wahl article in SI implied that both Keller and Friedel are having surgery during the break.
     
  15. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Denver
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Blackburn or any other EPL team Friedel may be playing for next season will come together to start pre-season training by the beginning of August. That's not that much time and the C-Cup isn't that important of a tournament. With WCQ, WC and EPL, Friedel has played the last 2 1/2 years without much of a break at all. Then more EPL and UEFA Cup and more WCQ. It's a well deserved break he's taking and that's not including if he needs time to recover from any type of surgery.
     
  16. RoverMax

    RoverMax Member

    May 4, 2003
    NYC
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I will be VERY DISAPOINTED if Friedel doesn't at least play in one of the events. Is it that hard to play 3 games for your nation after you played 47 for your club team.

    I should hope that you would put country before club, but it doesn't look like Friedel believes in that theory.
     
  17. worldsoccer-Jeff

    Mar 4, 2000
    Atlanta
    Friedel is out
    Keller is out
    Howard is in

    But who is the number four keep for the USA? Someone else has to go to France this summer. Looks like Meola is out of the picture. It will most likely be a MLS keeper. Looks like the Bruce will be trying out everybody in the league until he finds someone he likes. If Adin Brown is called up agaist Wales, I think we will have a winner.
     
  18. yellowbismark

    yellowbismark Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the way Hartman has played in some of the early MLS games, I wouldn't be opposed to giving him a call.

    Does anyone think that they'll sit Friedel/Keller during the first round of qualifiers vs the cupcakes?
     
  19. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope we don't see Friedel at all this summer. Let Brad get some rest. In Europe they really have a season that is too long with too many games. I can't see much good coming from Brad playing, but it would be possible for him to get injured.

    We'll have time to get Friedel or Keller enough games with the defense before real qualifying starts. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tim Howard get some starts in the first round of qualifying to save fatigue on Friedel and Keller. Besides BA seems to see noncallups as ways to develop a good relationship with club coaches.
     
  20. coach227

    coach227 New Member

    Jun 28, 2000
    Woodstock, IL
    Zach Thornton deserves another look in these friendlies and a possible callup for the tournaments, based on recent performance
     
  21. saabrian

    saabrian Member

    Mar 25, 2002
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably the fact that the Gold Cup is a joke. Remember the last GC. Mexico sent its B team and even the US sent mostly MLS players. If the top two teams by far in a tournament aren't going to send their strongest squads, then it says something about the tournament.

    Besides, Friedel has worked almost flat out since August 2001 (2 English seasons plus a WC). He needs a break. What better time to take a break than a joke tournament? If he were skipping the Copa America (assuming it avoids a repeat of the last debacle), then it would be a different question.
     
  22. Atouk

    Atouk BigSoccer Supporter

    DC United
    Apr 16, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's 3 keepers among the 23.
    http://images.fifa.com/cc/2003/regulations/CC_2003_EEE.pdf
    (see Art. 24).

    I guess how many MLS guys we bring will depend on whether Arena intends to alternate. I doubt he'd bring Brown if he intends to start Howard in every game, for instance. So, if he wants to give all three group games to Howard, I agree that we could see Howard along with the Europeans, Cannon and Hahnemann.

    As for the Gold Cup, Keller appears likely to be ready. Arena has said that tournament is more important to him that the Confederations Cup, so we could see Keller take that whole tournament, a la '02.

    Probably. I think it depends on a) who we draw, and b) whether we win the first couple. If we draw one of the tougher teams we could play in the opening round (say, Cuba), maybe one of 'em comes in for that game, while stayng in England for the games against the Virgin Islands/Surinam/Bahamas types.

    However, the odds are that we'll draw two teams outside the top 100, in which case I wouldn't expect to see Keller or Friedel unless we drop a game.

    I doubt Brown gets the callup against Wales, as we're already reading that Cannon and Rimando are getting the call (and the Revs play that weekend).
     
  23. saabrian

    saabrian Member

    Mar 25, 2002
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess this will teach me to be more careful before I spout off. The thread was referring to the Confed Cup and I responded about the Gold Cup. My bad.

    Nevertheless, the Confed Cup also isn't taken that seriously, at least by the top countries. It's certainly good action for the US, but Friedel doesn't need to be there. After playing in a WC quarterfinal, I don't think he needs the Confed Cup to get the feel of the big match.

    The Confed Cup is a way to get Howard and the younger players some semi-competitive action without much risk if they lose.
     
  24. Metros Striker10

    Metros Striker10 New Member

    Jul 7, 2001
    Planet Earth
    Friedel and Keller need the break. Friedel's had a very tough year, and needs the break to prevent further injury. Same with Keller. He wasn't as phenominal, but he deserves a break.
     
  25. jlmatthews

    jlmatthews New Member

    May 18, 2003
    Toledo
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Friedel is class and the US miss a little something when he isn't on the pitch. Plain and simple. The other guys are good, but Friedel is a step ahead of them...
     

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