NISA (New NASL-allied D3 league) Mega-Thread

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Homestead really seems like the end of the line. Last stop before the Everglades.

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  2. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Actually, last season they averaged 1,432. They're at 1,105 this year despite being mid table in the east and having Bill Hamid with another clean sheet last night.
     
  3. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Why does Miami FC even exist?
    Is the Miami metro area (going as far north as West Palm Beach) really going to support 2 mens pro teams?
    (Especially after Messi is gone- unless Inter has some other high profile signings)
    Isn't Miami Fc one of the teams from NASL days that were part of the lawsuit?
    Does this team have deep pocket owners?
    Would it make any sense for them to move to Ft Lauderdale area (not to Inter's stadium and after Inter leaves the area) and maybe try to share a stadium with the USL women's Super League Ft Lauderdale United FC (since they probably draw the same size crowds ! :p)

    Miami at first glance just doesn't seem like a 2 team market. Sure, we have LA & NY, but what other markets would jump out at you for a second pro team, remembering until something else happens in US soccer, that team is probably in the USL, not MLS.
     
  4. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They exist because of Riccardo Silva.

    The new location will include a residential academy with the USL team at the apex.

    They probably should be in League One.
     
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  5. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cosmos are joining USL League One in 2026. I think we can finally put this sideshow of a league to rest once and for all.
     
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  6. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    #2207 canammj, Jul 10, 2025
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2025
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    Wow, if true, still hard to believe. Looks like playing at Hincliffe stadium in Patterson,NJ
    Wasn't their another USL team going to play there, or is this the one?
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    Now if this is to work, the NY-NJ area really has nice soccer coverage by area---
    Cosmos are in northern NJ
    Red Bulls are south of them in NJ
    NYFC is on north side of Long Island/Queens
    FC Brookyn will be on south side of Long Island/Brookyn
    And to the north part of the metro area, you got a team playing in Westchester and even if you stretch is a bit, a proposed team in Bridgeport (admittedly in CT)
     
  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2208 Paul Berry, Jul 11, 2025
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2025
    It's this one. They are called something like NJ Pro soccer.

    They may get a few disaffected Metros fans who haven't followed them since they left Giants Stadium/Met Life but the probabilty of a team playing on a synthetic surface, with football and/or baseball markings, surrounded by a running track, winning the hearts and minds of soccer fans, when you'll have two excellent soccer specific stadiums in the US nearby .... I dunno.

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    But Paterson is 64% Hispanic, so there's that market to go after.
     
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  8. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many NYC metro teams does one third-tier soccer league need?

    Heck, even baseball's Frontier League stopped at three.
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2210 Paul Berry, Jul 14, 2025
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2025
    Westchester play about 17 miles north of Times Square and Patterson is 18 miles west of Times Square, so their not exactly serving the same market.

    RB2 and NY2 don't really count. It's a reserve league. Their combined fan bases can go home in a cab.

    And saying that NY Boulder of the frontier league is in the NY metro is like saying that Brighton and Hove Albion play in London.
     
  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's an area with a similar population around London.

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    Teams in Top 3 Divisions

    Arsenal, Brentford, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Fulham, Tottenham, West Ham, Charlton, Millwall, Queens Park Rangers, Watford, AFC Wimbledon, Leyton Orient, Luton, Reading, Wycombe

    League Two and National League

    Barnet, Bromley, Cheltenham, Colchester, Crawley, Gillingham, Boreham Wood, Southend, Sutton, Wealdstone

    And there's a bunch of ex EFL clubs below that.
     
  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gah!!! I was too late to edit. Apologies to any linguaphiles.
     
  12. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    hey wait, I live here and consider myself NY Metro...lmao
     
  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're way upstate! :D
     
  14. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    so if I am upstate, Kingston is the Adirondacks???;)
     
  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My friend lived in Inwood. I called it upstate Manhattan.

    Funny how my perspective changed when I moved to the Mid-Hudson Valley.
     
  16. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    well, you are not wrong about Inwood...your geography reminds me of a story from about 20 years ago...I am Assistant Referee on a Columbia U Mens soccer game and their pointyball football team is playing at exactly the same time. I am getting changed in the locker room and one of the football referees comes over...he asks...if do not mind me asking, how much are you getting paid to referee soccer? I told him $150 and he starts laughing, his pay was $750 and they got all tolls and parking and mileage reimbursed...which I did NOT.
     
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  17. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    And there's no NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. to compete.
     
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  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So they're going to play group stage over the course of a week (alternating days for recovery and to maintain the integrity of the competition or soe sh**), which means two groups of four, three games that week, four of the eight teams in the semis, then the final.

    So this 12-day thing at one location with teams that have existed for two and a half minutes is....what, so they can say they were really playing to keep some semblance of sanctioning? Jesus, what a cluster this league is.
     
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  20. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Matt Morse
    • I am honored to share that I've been appointed as Chief Operations Officer (CEO) of NISA at a pivotal moment in the growth of independent soccer in the United States
      As we anticipate sanctioning of NISA Pro by the United State Soccer Federation for 2026, we stand on the threshold of an exciting new era, one where independent clubs have a sustainable, professional home that reflects the diversity, ambition and passion of our communities.
      Since 2000, I have dedicated my professional life to this game. From building SoCal Premier into one of the nation's strongest adult leagues, to guiding NISA Nation in creating national structures for club development, each step has reinforced my belief that independent clubs are the lifeblood of soccer in the U.S.

      As CEO of NISA, my commitment is clear:

      - Build sustainable pathways from grassroots to professional levels
      - Empower independent clubs with the tools and visibility to thrive
      - Champion diversity and community-driven growth across U.S. soccer
      - Work with investors on creative models for ownerships, funding, and revenue generation

      This is about more than a league -- it's a movement for the future of the game.
      I look forward to working alongside our clubs, partners, and stakeholders to make this vision a reality. Together, we will ensure independent soccer clubs have the platform they deserve at the professional level.
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think what he's saying is that we're tearing everything up and starting from scratch.

    He's about to find the difference between amateur and professional soccer administration in the US.
     
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  22. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair, that was probably necessary

    Yeah, he is. "Independence" and all that authenticity and stuff is all well and good until you have to make payroll.
     
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  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Payroll, insurance, administration, travel, medical, match official fees, stadium costs, security, performance bond etc etc.

    Why aren't they teaming up with Peter Wilt's crew?
     
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  24. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have no inside knowledge of that. But in general, my answer to "why don't these two groups work together instead of separately?" when it comes to American soccer is that the history of the game in this country has been about not working together. There's always a conflict. Maybe there's one there. I have no idea.
     
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